Manny Pacquiao's place in history

Whether its A, B, C, D . . . . . . X, Y, Z,,... All they need to do is grab one and move up,,... Easier said than done,,... One person did it and that was Pacquiao,,... Don't worry about the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, we'll see it next year.. That's a very big plus to whoever wins,,... :good

 

yes it is, but it won't mean anything near as much as it would have 5 years ago
since Floyd pushed for the drug tests, and since pacman refused them and ariza went to marquez's camp, pac got knocked out cold by marquez, called for testing and hasn't KO'd anyone (since Floyd asked for it and ariza left)

saying that fight 'will be made' when it was a guaranteed record breaker 5 years ago, is easier said than done

 

I blame both parties and yes pac has not had a ko in for some time but its to do with the guys he has been facing he fought big strong guys let us go through them

Clottey never has been knocked down

Toni has a iron chin pac really hurt him at one point staggered him

Mosley has a iron chin also

Marquez never been stopped or knocked out

Rios has a iron chin

Bradleys chin is really good as well

so when you take all this to account and plus the fact he has been getting older it makes sence.

 

We'll see,,...

 

absolutely, I blame them both too
but until pac takes that drug test every time and displays his power, it's drawn into question
in a sport that isn't governed by one federation, while a sport like cycling is and still was clowned for over a decade by its riders, you'd be naïve to think drugs aren't rife in boxing

 

Check what i wrote above

 

I read it

 

So my point is pac got older also the guys he has been fighting have great chins

 

but you also know that isn't an excuse for someone refusing a drug test - especially in a sport where elite fighters can move onto the next challenger if they reject their 'golden goose payday' by rejecting the conditions of the fight
you're making an excuse for it, rather than drawing it into question

 

i was not even talking about the drug test i was addressing your concerns of why Pac has had no power after he refused the test.

 

that's exactly the reason why you were addressing it, you were just playing a different angle
don't pretend i'm an idiot :good

 

Anywhere from 150-100 all time is fine with me.
Anything inside top 50 is pacism

 

Even before Floyd, his greatness was set in stone. I just wish that his name was not dragged into this mess. Floyd has history of not making tough fights. Pac on the other hand barely has one.

 

Please name between 99 to 149 more fighters who have accomplished feats more than him.

 

that doesn't make sense
but like I said before, being "set in stone" before someone of equal standing asked for drug tests, rejecting it, and then having cream puffs in your gloves - raises a lot of questions