The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

The problem is that Arum was getting cut out of the promotion, and once he got his 27% Pac would be getting a 12% raise over his norm, for the biggest money fight of all time. That's comical, unless you're Pac in which case it's highly insulting

 

That's you maybe, Floyd loves it.

 

And Rafael's contention that it's smoke is based on an inaccurate timeline.

It could be a host of reasons, including loyalty, familiarity, or mere inertia. Why BTW is VADA "more effective?" Because Victor Conte says so?

USADA has as much capability of allowing or disallowing cheaters to enter the ring as VADA or any other third party organization.

Don't really know nor care. Floyd's ignorant enough about enough subjects that I wouldn't be surprised though, and a subjective interpretation of a "guilty face" that it's unfair to the concept of smoke to call it such.

 

I'm sure they could have been persuaded in the interest of this megafight being made. And if not, that'll show you what an unusual request it was at the time, and how Pac might have been taken it as a slap in the face.

Not insignificant, but both acceptable unless the other guy is trying to undermine the fight. USADA pointedly stated they could not guarantee no testing even on weighin or fight day. Combine that with their mistrust of USADA (subsequently justified in light of their track record), and some sort of cutoff was legit

 

Right, I'll take it on your authority.

VADA actually busted cheaters and prevented them from entering the ring, unlike USADA. In fact one of them was Conte client at the time!

But they can choose to withhold the information from the regulators who do have such power, or give therapeutic exemptions, or whatever the hell happened with Quillin Wright...

Lol ok. His junior gymmates busted for TRT, his friend and former manager is a TRT peddler, and Floyd does this when asked about TRT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR-W3ACNagc

 

He turned down testing request from Bradley in 2012, Marquez & Mosley in 2011, even turned down testing request in the 4th Marquez bout after they claimed Marquez was on PEDs and Marquez said testing is cool as long as they both get tested.

Mayweather is the biggest villian in boxing if he tested dirty it would be front page news, not a rumor noone credible is willing to backup.

Again still the guy who refused to drug test til 13' at the earliest is less suspicious than the guy who didn't want to release his complete medical history (not USADA records thoses are public). Fyi I don't necessarily think either are on em

 

Why would Arum, knocz & pac not argue back against team floyd and say they are liars and there were negotiations? Arum straight out said that he "assumed" greenburg was doing the negotiations.

 

Well looks like none of these were dealbreakers, since the fights happened anyway.

Why would it be front page news when the testing agency can't release that info, per contract? Besides, nobody is shocked when a boxer tests positive. its pretty much assumed in the mainstream most combat athletes are dirty. Holyfield was way more of a household name than Floyd, and didn't destroy his rep or popularity.

Remember Peterson and Berto both came up dirty after they insisted on testing and pointed fingers at their opponents? Now imagine if Peterson and Berto contracted th test agency privately, you think they get banned?

 

Cause they didn't have direct contact with Floyd but had Greenburg mediating. No big deal, but pretty sure their posture at the time was they were at negotiating indirectly

 

Arum is not one to make assumptions, I can see why greenburg would deny negotiations but what would Arum and team pac have to hide? In fact they could of used this to make floyd look bad. It just does not add up, I think (my opinion) is that team pac extended their demands and a final offer as a "take it or leave it". That's the only way I make sense of this.

 

http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=5412488&src=desktop

 

When your the A-side you make the demands Bradley, Mosley, Marquez had to get out their contract just to fight him so even if they wanted it they were in no position to say otherwise.

Berto, Peterson, Morales I thought they all did get a small ban like 6 months could be wrong neither of them are on the level of a Mayweather Berto doesn't have enough fans for people to be outraged. Mayweather on the other hand gets nitpicked at about every thing that would be big news.

 

floyd needs to release his PED test records.

 

Did floyd fail testing by USADA? Is ther one governining body like fifa in this sport? If not go away, and ask why did manny run from testing again?

 

I hate Floyd -

But Floyd doesn’t fight like a PED user. He is neither an one punch KO artist or fight like Jeo Calzaghe with immense stamina or is 50 years old like B Hop..

All I'm trying to say is, Floyd style of fighting doesn’t need PEDs.

I hate Floyd and I want him to be beat by PAC. But this does not make me think that Floyd is a PED user. My 2 cents.