The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

they ain't going after his cholesterol levels or his psychiatric evals, it's his PED test records with usada.

on all of his PED tests with usada, what procedure did they use to test floyd's samples and are there any positive A samples that weren't confirmed with the B samples?

this is what usada and floyd should release, silence the rumor.

 

Foolish little goblin.

The USADA makes ALL their test results PUBLIC.:deal
A court order is not needed to see Mayweather's test results..or anybody's.



Arum and co. wanted Floyd's medical records and were told to kick rocks.

 

They dont release failed A samples not followed up by B samples, or medical exemption data, pitiful ALT

 

Desperation?

Come on man, you know this is reaching.

 

What? Hows this reaching, this is one of the main problems with promoter contracted testing. The lack of transparency and the glaring builtin conflict of interest. Like I said, itd be lol worthy in any respectable sport.

 

They were requesting medical records, that's not the same as the usada test records. Keeping medical records private is every citizens right. It's not something floyd created. For all we know he probably has some std he does not want made public.

You have one guy rejecting testing (ped testing for a fight) but want to point the finger at the guy not releasing his medical records. Again we all have that right, it was created for a reason.

 

Not according to Dan Rafael, they were requesting his full testing record including any therapeutic exemptions and failed A samples. Again, you must have better sources?

Any request for generic medical records would have been dismissed of course, and Floyd wouldnt have had to settle humiliatingly. But hey, hold on to the fairytales if it makes you sleep sound at night

 

So Dan has never been wrong? Dan has been wrong on multiple occasions. Dan also said that it was "rumored". Also Dan has been known to always lean towards pac side. It's like me asking for skip's opinion, we know he is a pac fan.

I'm a fan of both and if it was up to me I would roid both for the ultimate match. Believe me pac or floyd are not a huge deal to me but just find it funny how *******s (not saying you are because you carry a conversation) pull these funny and desperate attempts to make floyd look bad. Both acted like divas. Both are atg and both are a joy to watch.

 

Nothing desperate. Floyd and his minions have been shitting on Pac for years when theres jusr as much PED smoke billowing from the Floyd camp if not more.

Dan didnt try confirming or denying the Flofd failing 3x rumor but he was matter of fact with respect to law suit settlement and its timing

 

...just cut the bullsh!t. they were not asking for floyd's complete medical records and usada wouldn't even have (immunization, surgery, x-rays) it.

what usada would have are his PED test methods/procedures on how they tested (CIR or T/E ratio) floyd's samples. usada would also have records of results that wasn't released because A sample wasn't confirmed with B sample.

 

Let's pretend this is all true.. Why would they ask Floyd for the records as if usda didn't have them? If usda refused to release them, why would Floyd pay Manny? This makes no sense.. The more you guys try to explain the stupider it sounds...

 

It's not my authority. The requests for Floyd's records came in late May or June, the settlement came in September. The way you and "boxing expert" Rafael are spinning it, Floyd immediately settled the next day or some such rubbish.

No, the commissions and the promoters are the ones who kept them from entering the ring. VADA has as much punitive authority as USADA.

None of which is any different from VADA or any other third party testing agency.

Linking the same dumb interview again doesn't change the fact that your interpretation of this interview is about the weakest kind of smoke possible.

What a wonderful stretch. NSAC repeatedly publicly declared they lacked the capability of carrying out random testing during the period in question. That doesn't do a damn thing to justify Pacquiao's disinterest in testing, and the fact that random testing had in fact been requested before shoots the notion that it was an unusual or unfair request straight to hell.

Both are only equivalently acceptable if you want to pretend, as Pacquiao's camp did, that they had agreed to one thing when they had really agreed to the other. It's common sense that fighters would be unlikely to be tested within a week of the fight, but it's quite clear that the infinitesimal chance that Pacquiao would be was too great a risk to take in 2009 and 2010.

"Mistrust of USADA" was never a reason presented by the Pacquiao camp throughout the first and second negotiating periods, and pretending it was a position that's somehow been vindicated is therefore utter tripe as well. Perhaps Floyd should have instead requested that Pacquiao be tested by "the Olympic organization" that Arum preferred. They clearly exist and would have been far more trustworthy.

 

there was a defamation lawsuit by pac against floyd during that time. i don't know on what grounds would pac's lawyers issue a subpoena for floyd's PED test records and how they would use it. what did happen though is that floyd and his lawyers offered to settle after that.

it would have been devastating though for floyd's legacy/career if it was true and released.

 

If it was that important, they would ask usda not Floyd.. You think Floyd has his test results laying around his house? If I wanted your school transcripts, I would ask get out from your school not from you since you would have to get it from your school too...

 

they did.

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=413176

...just found out why Pac's lawyers asked for his test records. Floyd Jr. counter-sued Pacquiao for defamation.

i guess floyd dropped his lawsuit and then he settled pac's lawsuit.