Julio Cesar Chavez Sr's Resume

Pretty good.

 

The man went through a 10 year period where he was seemingly unbeatable. He was the most active fighting champion of his day and pretty much took on everyone within reasonable perameters to the division(s) that he was fighting in. An ATG by every standard and probably one that some underrate.

 

this talk of how many all time greats he did or didn't beat is nonsense really when you think that hector camacho who Chavez beat has 2 wins over top 10 all time greats on his resume. so what does that prove?
All time greats decorate many an undeserving record, because they mostly fight past their prime, so its an unreliable criteria.
Which prime all time greats did joe Louis beat? or Floyd mayweather, or roy jones, or mike Tyson, or rocky Marciano. They didn't allow anyone else to be great.
You have to be quite lucky to have other prime great fighters around your weight class, and if theyre not there you do what Chavez did. Absolutely dominate and clean out 3 weight divisions over a ten year 90 fight period.
Superb wins over Ramirez, Rosario and meldrick taylor, who most people had as a great in the making and who possibly would have become great had he not run into Chavez.
I also thought a fading Chavez pipped whittaker
but even in the weakest division, (and these divisions weren't weak at all), chavez' incredible record of 27 title defences, winner of 31 world title fights over 3 weight divisions, and a 90 fight unbeaten streak in that kind of company deserves some credit. His resume was one of the best in history.

 

It's a great record. When you fight as often as he did, you're bound to have a few soft touches here & there. His consistency and longevity is stellar. Only towards the end did he become beatable.

 

I'm sorry but A FEW soft touches? His first 50 fights are nothing but cab drivers and kindergarten drop outs!

 

Examine it more closely... He turned pro when he was 17 years of age and accumulated 43 fights and a world title by age 21. When you're that young, unknown, need the money and have no one big backing you in the beginning, you're not fighting world class men right away. His high level of activity was unheard of for the era he fought in. And he was a man willing to take on anybody weather it was an all time great like Pernell Whitaker for a ton of money or a journeyman with a record of 20-15 for peanuts. You haven't seen anyone doing that kinda **** for the last 60-70 years.

 

:good

 

Maybe, but he fought many guys with records like 3-3-0 on his way to going 80-0

 

But for good reason. The idea of him fighting lesser men like that was for the purpose of staying busy and not because of record padding or ducking real contenders. In 1992 for example he fought 6 times, taking on quality opponents in Hector Camacho, Angel Hernandez and Frankie Mitchell while subsequently fighting tune ups in between, including an unknown guy who was 37-0.. How many champions can even make that claim? As much as I like Floyd Mayweather, I'll take a man like chavez who keeps busy rather than Floyd's usual once a year appearance.

 

Chavez's record was a bit padded. For example, he lost one of his very first fights in Mexico on a dq, which was later overturned by the local commission, even though apparently they didn't have the authority to overturn. I also recall watching one of his non-title bouts on telemundo, I think it was in France. Anyway, Chavez hit the guy low in the second or 3rd round and he couldn't continue - should have been another dq, but they somehow gave it to Chavez. He also clearly lost to Whitaker, as well as the second fight against Randall (that's 4 Losses that are not on his record). And of course, about 30 of his wins were basically sanctioned sparring sessions.

However, I do think the Taylor win was legit. Steele stopped the bout with 5 seconds left (not 2), which would have been ample time for JC to land one more right, which could have been life threatening.

 

Chavez is labeled as the greatest Mexican boxer of all time I my thoughts on that is he would quit like in randall 2 /de la hoya there were many more fighters better olivera, sanchez, Zamora, zarate, he fought a lot of bums in mexico so the greatest never

 

Go to hell *******, Chavez is EASILY the greatest Mexican boxer ever.

 

Oliveras and Zamora better than Chavez??? LOL stick to netball my old son boxing's not for you.

 

An astounding career. The losses at the end mean nothing. The blemish against whitaker spoils it slightly but other than that a great cv

 

So many Cab Drivers.