What Was The Golden Decade Of Middles?

19 klompton & 6.

 

Hes just mad that hes gotten his ass hammered across two separate forums over his garbage. Go check out his nonsense on checkhook. Ill PM you the link. Youd get a laugh out of it and who he calls contenders.

 

while you look at that link McVey, Notice my Avitar,

I believe THEY called them Contenders, Fringe Contenders and World Class fighters, I believe it was THEM!

 

There has been so many "golden age " of middleweights, so I'll pick the latest in my opinion. The GOLDEN AGE of middleweights just before my time, the 1930s and early 1940s -
Marcel Thil
Fred Apostoli
Al Hostak
Freddie Steele
Ken Overlin
Tony Zale
Billy Soose
Holman Williams
Charley Burley
Teddy Yarosz
Georgie Abrams
What depth in the 1930s and EARLY 1940s...

 

The early 40s was stunning for the amount of talent that passed through the division. I would vote for that decade. I prefer the 20s over the 30s, even though the 30s had more depth the top heavy trio of Greb, Walker, and Flowers is hard to ignore.
90s could of been great but the creation of the super middleweight division had too much talent bleed to higher weight classes.

 

Yeah, show me when they rated these guys as contenders:

Stefan Olek
Ken Shaw
Ginger Sadd
Vince Hawkins
Jack Hyams
Dave McCleave
Ben Valentine
Jim Berry
Pat O'Connor
Jack Peterson
Eddie Phillips
Eddie Pearce,
Eddie McQuire
Jack Casey

Some of these guys may have gotten mentioned or had their pictures shown in the foreign correspondents section such as the "with the british boxers" section of the Ring which was, again, devised by Fleischer to sell magazines overseas but they werent rated as contenders. On the rare occasion that one of these guys popped into the ratings, and a quick perusal hasnt found a single one yet, he was out as fast as he was in. But by all means, prove me wrong. Show me where these guys were being written about in the Ring in glowing terms calling them contenders. And while you are at it keep in mind that the foreign section was written by one of your domestic writers so thats no different than a British journalist talking up a british fighter. I want to see where these guys actually broke into the ratings and were talked about by writers over here as contenders.

I'll give you an example. In 1940, arguably the high point of Gilroy's career and when he was right in line for a shot at the Lonsdale Belt (which he backed out of)he was rated only as high as 26 by Ring magazine. Keeping in mind that McAvoy was now being rated by the Ring as a LHW at #8 in the world it doesnt really speak volumes that Gilroy was this ducked, feared, highly rated fighter. He was rated right behind Ben Brown of Georgia... How often do you hear people bleeting about how ducked Ben Brown was. You dont but Brown, as low rated as he was, actually managed to do something Gilroy never could. He beat a couple of top, world rated fighters and held his own with a couple more. He even had a Ring magazine cover, something Gilroy was never even close to.

 

True above Mc, but Jim Driscoll, Owen Moran and Freddie Welsh, more than held their own with their American counterparts...And of course
Ted Kid Lewis more than matched the American welterweights of his time,
breaking even with his great rival Jack Britton...

 

Wouldn't say it was the golden era by any means... but the early-mid 90's wasn't to shabby.

 

I agree with you and Mcvey but you didn;t even get half of them. All of these guys were at MW then, talk about mindblowing...

Billy Conn
Freddie Steele
Teddy Yarosz
Holman Williams
Charly Burley
Ezzard Charles
Fred Apostoli
Ken Overlin
Lloyd Marshall
Archie Moore
Tony Zale
Georgie Abrams
Eddie Booker
Billy Soose
Al Hostak
Young Corbett III
Ceferino Garcia
Solly Kreiger
Babe Risko
Vince Dundee
Marcel Thil
Kid Tunero
Cocoa Kid
Jack Chase
Aaron Wade
Erich Seelig
Jock McAvoy
Anton Christoforidis
Swede Berglund
Gorilla Jones
Shorty Hogue
Kid Azteca
Bandit Romero
Young Terry



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the 1910s.

Harry Greb
Sam Langford
Stanley Ketchel
Mike Gibbons
Jack Dillon
Frank Klaus
Jeff Smith
Jimmy Clabby
Billy Papke
Tommy Gibbons
Les Darcy
Mike O'Dowd
Tiger Flowers
Eddie McGoorty
Leo Houck
George Chip
Georges Carpentier