Vitali Klitschko's chin is ovarated.

who cares, the argument was that he could bang, and he definitely could. Very solid puncher, greatly underrated.

 

two facts
hide was a good hitter(scale=good-great-ATG) and he took a dive vs vitali

 

two facts

1. Vitali shattered hides glass jaw
2. You're a troll

 

what is a troll? someone you dont like? clearly. hide was a good hitter at best definitely didn't have one punch KO power

 

I get what you're saying, but there's multiple ways and causes of being KO'd or knocked down in a fight. What you're alluding too can't be helped much with gaining or losing weight. But if you're simply getting knocked off your equilibrium from a punch, having extra weight on you would help.

Plus do you really think Nonito Donaire could fight at 135 pounds and still be the devastating puncher he is now. And in return, do you think Donaire could take the punches from a HW as well as another HW?

 

1. You have to establish what caused the loss of equilibrium. Is it a misstep, is it a body shot, is it a punch to the head? Having extra mass on you when off equilibrium is actually WORSE, as it tends to lead to such nasty surprises such as knee damage, broken ankles etc.

I repeat: NO amount of weight gained would improve your punch resistance (hit landed on your jawline/chin/temple/forehead), which is what you claimed originally (and many others supported, so don't feel bad). Its an urban myth, which has no supporting evidence at all, neither through empirical results nor through theory.

As for your second point: there is such a thing as ideal natural weight, i.e the amount of muscle/bone/fat mass that your body can carry with optimal results. Going above that will cause a deterioration in performance, both in ability to take a hit and in ability to deliver devastating punches. Bigger guys take harder hits not because they weigh more, but rather because they are naturally bigger men physiologically, and are capable of taking more punishment because of that. You take a natural middleweight, like Delahoya, and bring him down to lower classes, he will still have the punch resistance of the middleweight. Hopkins was untouchable at 160 lbs because he was a natural 175 lber, and had a punch resistance of a light heavyweight, etc.

PS: I don't get what you mean about the different heavyweights, please elaborate on that.

 

actually, yes it was. only credible wins he ever had were holyfield. evan fields went .500 or worse against every decent fighter he ever fought, aside from tyson.

 

well really you just agreed on the initial point. You agree that naturally bigger men can withstand harder punches. That's what I'm trying to get at really.

Using the example of a MW and adding 25 pounds to him is a bad example, but saying a natural heayweight can generally absorb harder punches than a natural welterweight is fair.

and I think it's fair to say if you gain mass to your neck and legs, it'd help with your punch resistance. The added weight to your legs will provide more stability and balance. It'll help more with the punches that make your legs buckle/shake or try to knock you off your equilibrium.
There are punches though that just put your lights out right away though like Julian Jackson/Herrol Graham

 

I said naturally bigger men have better punch resistance, but am denying the causation between their mass and their ability to take a hit.

Also I don't think having bigger legs will do much for your stability and balance, once against, quality over quantity. Boxers traditionally have skinny legs, with heavyweights being the exception. What muscular legs do give you is improved punching power, if of course you know how to use them.

There are a lot of misconceptions about the role muscles play in combat sports, and there is a general belief that more is better, which is simply not true. There is a certain amount that is needed, any more than that does very little for the performance of a boxer.
As for gaining muscles in the neck: this is a notoriously difficult area to have gains, and years of exercise may only provide 1 - 1.5 lbs of muscle gained there, best case scenario, which would hardly be noticeable on the grand scale of things when the boxer's weight is considered.

 

yup, in Sanders absolute prime, he was a failed prospect during the Lennox era, unable to deliver or win anything above domestic level for his entire career.

yet in the K bros era, in his absolute worst form as a near 40something retiree, hes someone who can kill one titlist in 200 seconds, and come close to doing the same with the other (ie in the K bros era, failed old fatboy Corrie came close to unifying the titles within 8 minutes!!!)

go figure.

 

This is a joke yes? Surely?

 

:roflatsch

Do you know how many uppercuts Tyson took off Lewis, who incidentally lasted longer vs a better version of Lewis than Vitali did.

Tell me, who looks on ***** street here?

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/574747/vitali-holds-on-to-dear-life-o.gif