I say Livingstone Bramble: 40 and 26. He beat Mancini (twice), Brazier, and Carr (robbed), and I think at his best would've given Chavez all he could handle. Gotta wonder why King never made that fight.
I made this same thread 4 months ago. http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=504063 Here are the examples I used then. Dick Tiger 60-19-3 Emile Griffith 85-24-2 Jack Britten 103-29-20 Kid Gavilan 108-30-5 Tommy Loughran 90-25-10 Sammy Angott 94-29-8 Joey Giardello 100-27-8 Carmen Basilio 56-16-7 Jersey Joe Walcott 51-18-2 Fritzie Zivic 158-65-9
Jimmy Young 34-19-2 Two wins over Rob Lyle Win over George Foreman Highly disputed loss to Ali many including myself scored (by two rounds) for Young. Disputed loss to Norton disputed draw with Shavers. His style was negative and it cost him. He spoiled fights. Never making them exciting but based on clean punching and making an opponent miss I thought he clearly defeated Ali. I would have to re watch the Norton and Shaver fights. However, Ali, Foreman, and Lyle 2x alone makes for a great resume for a fighter with a pedestrian win loss record.
i was posting about Bennie Briscoe on facebook the other day....his record was misleading if you just look at the numbers....is that the sort of thing we're looking for here ?
Gotta throw Biggsy in here. Ty won olympic gold then went 15-0 before being shoved in with Tyson, Damiani ,Mason,Bowe and Lewis (ALL Peak and unbeaten).Never the same after. Even during his 15-0 he was toughly matched.He fought Jeff Sims (WBC ranked 7) before he'd even had 10 fights. Career wins over Sims,Tillis,Snipes,Bey,Ocassio and Marin ( who was unbeaten) proves Ty was a good boxer . Even in decline it took a good fighter to beat him( Tony Tubbs ,Larry Donald,Mike Hunter etc) If his fights had have been picked more carefully,like the careers of Mason or a Bruno or a Damiani his record would have been better. He ran into one of the toughest line of opponents imaginable.
Teddy (Red Top) Davis was 71-75-6 in his career. A misleading record of his talent. He beat Paddy DeMarco, Percy Bassett, George Araujo, 'Chillin' Charley Riley, Armand Savoie and Paul Jorgensen as well as going 15 rounds with Sandy Saddler for the featherweight crown. Fought out of his weight class continuously throughout his career - which fighters back then did regularly in order to make a buck - and even fought welter Tony DeMarco shortly before the Saddler fight.
Hey doug! I think that's what they're looking for. Try Jose Gonzalez on for size! Something like 42-20. I've posted a thread on him in the past and no one seems to want to respond. From a late fifties welter until his early 70's retirement as a LH. Go to BoxRec and look at this guy's wins and losses in that period! In a word? One...tough...out!
Yeah, he was 44-10. Anyone just looking at the stats would say there's no way he could have being a great fighter. Same with Roy Jones who will end up with around the same number of losses on his record before he's finally done.
Buster Drayton Ezzard Charles Kid Gavalin Sam Langford Original Joe Walcott All hugely misleading ...