Jim Jeffries Say's He Was Behind Against Corbett

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jim Jeffries in an interview states he knew he was behind against Corbett in their frst fight and that Corbett would have been the new champion if he had not knocked him out. Contrary to Mendoza's spin on the fight Jeffries himself admits he was behind on points and being out boxed at the time of the stoppage,and that Corbett began taunting him and then went for the ko which was his undoing.
    Here is the interview,along with his recounting of the first Fitz fight.

    http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/pag...-title=44|||l-decade=193|||l-category=Article
     
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  2. Meazy-E

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    I actually thought this was commonly known. I've never found myself impressed by Jim's skillset, perhaps it is just the footage, but he stands out as a weak fighter even for the style of the era. Which I find odd because of all of the fine things those who have seen him said about him.

    Anyhow cool article, thanks for posting.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    I was expecting Mendoza to respond as he has always maintained Jeffries was in the lead.It seems his eyesight, like his memory is "selective".
     
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  4. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm very interested in this. Unfortunately, the link isn't loading for me.
     
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  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    The link did not work. Ali said he beat Frazier because Frazier went to the hospital. Johnson said he took a dive.

    I'll take a ring side report over what a fighter says. And those news reports posted here have Jeffries even or slightly in the lead the at fights are scored today.
     
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  6. Meazy-E

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    Those are a bit different considering the outcome though...
     
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  8. Meazy-E

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    " The showing made by James J. Corbett In his recent ring battle with Champion Jeffries surprised the sportine fraternity so much that the comment has not subsided. That Corbett completely outclassed Jeffries Is shown by the accompanying table, compiled for the New York Herald."
     
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  9. mcvey

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    Immediately after the contest Johnson said he beat me fair and square I have no kick coming. Jeffries admmited he was behind against Corbett and that if he had not scored the ko he would have lost his title.
    His manager Brady said the same thing he climbed up on the ring apron between the 19th and 20th rounds and told Jeffries if you dont knock him out,you'll lose your title.

    Kid McCoy ringside said Corbett was leading on pointsat tthe tiem of the stoppage and that he would not be surprised if Corbett won a rematch.

    May 12.—Kid McCoy summarized the Jeffries-Corbett fight as follows:

    "Corbett lost in his battle with Jeffries tonight, but he made a magnificent struggle, leading all the way until he was suddenly dropped with a left uppercut on the jaw after two minutes and II seconds of the fighting In the twenty-third round. He showed he was just as speedy and as clever as ever as he made a show of Jeffries right up to tha last two rounds. He fought Jeffries carefully, and made him look like a novice for an hour and 20 minutes. What beat him was Jeffries' youth and strength and heavier weight. "If Corbett should meet Jeffries again I would not be a bit surprised to see him win, although he would always run the risk of being knocked out just as be was tonight."
     
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  10. janitor

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    It is not impossible to find a report that had Jeffries ahead, but the vast majority had Corbett ahead.

    We are therefore obliged to conclude that Corbett was almost certainly ahead.
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The voice of reason speaks.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    I can't get the link to work now either ,and I put it in my favourites.
    Sorry about that.
     
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  14. Entaowed

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    Interesting but even with outscoing Jeffries by a massive margin, it is still under 20 blows landed a round.

    Please educate me: when did it become a standard 3 minute round?
    Before that it was until a KD or...?

    Though these were presumably full 3 minute rounds, when they went so many rounds they virtually never went at a fast pace, so as to dave their endurance?

    Also when was 15 rounds standardized?
     
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  15. Stevie G

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    I first read about this fight around forty years ago when I started buying the American boxing mags such as The Ring. It was well documented that Corbett was shutting Jeffries out until he got tired and caught.
     
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