what happened to Roy Jones?

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  1. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fixed it for you.
     
  2. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spot on.
     
  3. Scar

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    Is Roy Jones the first athlete and human being you see get old and past his prime?
     
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  5. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Considering he went pro when he was 22, I dont think he "started boxing at 25"....you moron

    And became, British/commonwealth/European and IBF champion, and beat Glen Johnson and Julio Cesar Gonzalez(twice), so yeah...pretty darn good fighter.
     
  6. Malcolm

    Malcolm Active Member Full Member

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    Few great fighters have declined as fast as Roy did.
    He was often called the "Michael Jordan" of Boxing but I think he was more like the Harlem Globetrotters, that's not a criticism, I think he and his team probably considered that the best marketing\money making strategy for him. Take advantage of his freaky athleticism and have him clown guys, look like Superman and collect every belt possible whilst boasting about how good he was. People forget his performance against Hopkins in their first fight was considered disappointing. Roy wasn't afraid to lose, he was afraid to look less than spectacular.
    Once his athleticism declined he either wouldn't or couldn't go back to being more orthodox. I haven't seen it but my understanding is he was a conventional fighter as an amateur so the whole, "he great genes, not skills" argument doesn't work.
    He lost his confidence after the KO loses too and as someone already said, his style needed massive confidence in order to be effective.
     
  7. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    The Tarver ko is what started it imo. He was never the same after that.
     
  8. Scar

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    He wasn't the same in their first fight too. Going up to Heavyweight and moving down is what ruined him in my opinion. The KO in the rematch only made things worse than they already were.
     
  9. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    He has a despicable chin which he no longer can protect with his diminished skills. He fights similar to that of James Toney now once their mobility issues kicked in they had nothing, absolutely nothing. when your legs & reflexes dont work no more its time to call it a day
     
  10. Doopster

    Doopster Active Member Full Member

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    Who else was about at heavyweight could he have faced and beat instead of going down to 175
     
  11. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They busted him doing pedz. And someone touched his glass jaw.
     
  12. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he doesnt really fight similar to toney, toney didnt rely on his legs at all
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    As mentioned before, I'm pretty sure the root cause of his rapid decline was his decision to gain 20lbs go up to heavyweight and then loose 20lbs for his next fight. As one ages the body doesn't handle weight loss very well, and I'm fairly certain that the end of his career would have been a lot better had he just stayed at heavy.
     
  14. HerolGee

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    its possibly the way he gained weight , I think mainly muscle mass, to go up to HW, that's his problem. Drug-built muscle isn't built naturally, and when you the proceed to lose that weight, you would expect the body to try to rid itself of extra muscle that it gained first - but no it rids itself of mass from the whole muscle and not just the 'extra layers' from steroid use.

    Assuming he used PEDS to gain weight so drastically. Tis a big assumption because he was only proven to have used steroids once or twice, I believe.
     
  15. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Roy was ready and in shape for the Tarver 2 fight. I think his reflexes were faded though, his legs were not quite what they were and he got kind of lazy, throwing one shot at a time as opposed to his peak where he moved better and threw many shots.

    You have to give Tarver credit, because the version of Roy he beat was still an elite fighter. But I don't think he gets caught with that shot at his peak.