ron lyle and jerry quarry

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  1. frank

    frank Active Member Full Member

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    why didn't ron lyle win a title? he was as big,strong and as great a puncher as frazier or foreman.and jerry quarry? he beat ron lyle and shavers,mac foster (though could not stand up to frazier's power?) what was their missing championship trait?
     
  2. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mostly it was that the competition was so stiff. Quarry, in my opinion, just wasn't big enough. Lyle was big and powerful, but he turned pro very late. He didn't start making noise until his 30's.
     
  3. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing more then they came at a time where the champions were all time greats and a head above them both. Ron could be outboxed and many thought Jerry lost both bouts against a little past it Patterson. So he was at that level, clearly top 5 contender but not in the league of Frazier, Ali, and Foreman.
     
  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither were really that good. In today's era they both would be Klitschko KO victims.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The above is not worth two buckets of warm spit, on its own!
     
  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The deepest era the heavyweight division ever saw: late 1960s thru mid 1970s.
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Lyle , in additional to starting very late, also suffered a terrible near fatal stabbing while in prison which in no doubt imputed him physically as well ...
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Lyle turned pro at 30 and was already 33 when he fought quarry.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Watch the fight on youtube. Quarry was more aggressive and controlled the action on the inside.
     
  10. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As long as Klitschko kept the jab going Jerry would clearly lose, but Quarry was an excellent counter puncher with power and he would wait for an opening. Should W. go in for a ko and Jerry connected it could be all over. Jerry was a b+ fighter in an era of A and A+ champions.
     
  11. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lyle started too late. Quarry didn't have the right men in his corner during his formative years. Also, Jerry had substance abuse issues.
     
  12. detamour

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    jerry, never had drugs issues until career finished. Johnny flores & that ****ing daddy of his was his downfall though. That ****ers training regime ****ed his 3 boys up big time!! Read that jerry biography that cane out 3 yrs back & thad spencers too. VERY VERY SAD BOOKS!
     
  13. mcvey

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    No doubt about it!:good
     
  14. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I question the substance abusive when he was fighting matter.
     
  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Indeed. Both may well have won the WBA version had they came along in the eighties.