Let's clear it up, was the Matthysse/Ortiz stoppage BS?

You have to beat the ten count, as in be composed before ten. If you're not even up by 9 It could easily be suggesting that you don't want up.

 

i would've let it continue. he was on his feet at 10 and there was no head trauma.

 

You never addressed him about the mouth peice. If it weren't for that I'd agree with you, he did get up at 9, BUT if you recover yourself for 8-9 seconds, and THEN spit out your mouth peice, your obviously trying to get more time.
The announcers saw this and mentioned you could just take a point from him for doing it on purpose and let the fight continue, but either way I don't care. He was hurt, he wouldn't have recovered... Besides, no different in trying to get more time by spitting out a mouth peice than hitting somebody in the balls because there coming on to strong (Garcia - Mattysse anybody? Lol) to buy some time. If you manage to win by purposely cheating, plenty of people aint giving you no respect anyways.

 

Premature technically but Ortiz was going to get hurt. Wrong call, right intention. Just a matter of time. Saved the guy from a beating. Benji must have been thinking standing 8 count.

 

Ref is sorry plain and simple

 

When you get dropped and want to continue on fighting, two things that you don't do are:

-spit out your mouthpiece
-wait until "nine" to rise from your knees

Everyone knows this. Everyone. The purpose of not doing them is to not give the referee reason to stop the fight.

Guess what? Ortiz did both of them. And the ref stopped the fight.

This sort of thing happens all the time, but they are more controversial when the fighter doesn't grimace in intense pain then spit out their mouthpiece before the controversial rising at "nine."

 

Look at David Price v Tony Thompson rematch.
Thompson gets dropped and barely beat the count getting back on his feet. That was a fighter wanting to continue. Skip ahead to 9:40:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSnLDS5vcs

Compare and contrast Thompson in that fight and Malik Scott in the Chisora fight, Hugo Cazares in the Frampton fight and Ortiz last weekend to see the difference in a fighter wanting to continue and a fighter looking for a way out.

 

Just add it to the list of shenanigans involved whenever there's a GBP and/or Haymon card. And to make it worse the referee never wants to give an explanation for his actions because he knows they were indefensible. Hardly the worst I've seen, but part of a bigger disturbing trend.

In no particular order:

1) Matthysse/Ortiz premature stoppage.

2) 114-114 scorecard by Gustavo Padilla in Hopkins/Shumenov

3) 114-114 scorecard by CJ Ross in Mayweather/Alvarez

4) 114-114 scorecard by Lisa Giampa in Lomachenko/GRJ

5) 116-112 (X2) for Danny "Cherry" Garcia vs. Mauricio Herrera

6) Kirkland BS DQ win over Carlos Molina

7) Russell Mora and the epic low-blow fest between Mares/Agbeko I.

And in non-GB related BS

1) Dave Moretti and Jerry Roth scoring for Jessie Vargas 118-110 and 118-111 over Novikov

2) Vic Drakulich's inexplicable stoppage of Rios/Chaves

 

come one everyone it shoudlnt have been stopped, he was up before 10 thats the rules

 

Ortiz was about to be brutally KO'd anyway so I don't give a ****.

Therefore if Broner and Lucas fight the ref should jump in and stop glass chinned Broner at the press conference because he is guaranteed to be stopped. :deal

 

The ref. made a stupid mistake. No doubt about it. Ortiz stood up before counting to 10 and he was ready to continue so there's no reason to stop the fight.

See the poll results above if you don't agree *******.

 

It was a BS stoppage. Matthysse was going to spark him, though. There is a reason you are given 10 seconds to recover and not 9.

 

I don't think the fight should have been stopped. but going by the letter of the law, you need to be ready to continue before the 10 count, which is why you get up at 8 so the ref can check you before he reaches 10