The Transnational Boxing Rankings

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Dec 13, 2012.


  1. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just goes to show ya. Once you get passed a few old guys, the WW division is less than mediocre...
     
  2. jas

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    He hasn't beat any of the top10

    And his last two showings haven't been good vs rosado and konecny
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You don't have to beat the top ten to be in it.
     
  4. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well he beat Porter..
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Pound for Pound
    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Andre Ward
    3. Manny Pacquiao
    4. Roman Gonzalez
    5. Timothy Bradley
    6. Juan Manuel Marquez
    7. Carl Froch
    8. Wladimir Klitschko
    9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    10. Juan Francisco Estrada *
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Love it. If there is nothing at least scheduled for Ward in the next 6-8 weeks, pull trigger.
     
  7. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Danny Garcia fights and beats Peterson, does he reenter the P4P list?
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I question the validity of Porter having been inside ten.

    Malignaggi was 5-1 at the weight, and even if you want to say the Broner decision was bad you have to in fairness subtract the Cano decision, if we're going back "correcting" things. His official 1-1 between those is best case scenario, but you could also fairly call that a pair of deserved losses.

    Alexander was 3-0 at the weight, boasting a couple of very good scalps in Bailey and Maidana (especially given how widely he beat them) but on the other hand both were stylistically tailor made for him. The last time Alexander had to cope with a match for his own speed or better was Bradley, and he lost. So he was a bit of smoke and mirrors at WW himself. Plus that Maidana in 2010 was only half the fighter the Oxnard indoctrinated Maidana is.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nah. Lamont hasn't built himself back up into Golden Ticket status for simply having beaten Jean and Santana (and possibly also Cuenca, if that happens)
     
  10. McGrain

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    I've been pushing, gently, for a Ward demotion as is. If he goes the year there without having anything slated, I think he'll get removed from the p4p list.
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Possibly. There's been healthy disagreement about whether or not he should still be included. I think a good win for Garcia over a good opponent would see him back in if i'm honest with you, though there's many a slip between a cup and a lip, and there are a lot of guys involved in sorting that out.

    He may reappear before that if Ward moves out as opposed to down after a year of inactivity.
     
  12. Super Hans

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    I personally never understood why people was so impressed with Porter's win over shot Malignaggi, not only was they taking it as a given he'd beat Brook, but I remember a poll on here where a hypothetical fight between Porter and Marquez the highest percent of picks was Marquez to be KO'd by Porter.

    :patsch
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :good

    I've nothing against the man, but enough is enough.

    Chocolatito deserves better than being frozen out from the #3 spot because Ward took his ball home and refuses to play with the other kids just yet until he feels like it.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I mean Porter is strong and much bigger than Marquez so I can at least see the rationale behind some people making that pick (even as probably the board's hugest JMM fan outside Mexico) - but yeah, I never got Porter walking through Brook. Styles always favored the smoother, faster, sharper and more technical boxer-puncher there - really the only question was could Brook translate his style to a bigger stage than he yet had fought on. A: yes.

    That match-up was never about what the one-trick pony and hardly mysterious Porter brought to the table.
     
  15. Super Hans

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    :good
    Well i understood Brook wasnt that well know outside of Britain and people had heard that he struggled in his 1st fight with Jones (ignoring the 2nd fight) But i never understood picking him over proven elites like Marquez.

    If Marquez can time Pacquiao with brutal pin point counter punches, imagine what Porter would - literally - be diving Into face 1st.