Three realstic fights that would seriously enchance Floyd Mayweather legacy

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  1. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Here are 3 realistic fights that could enhance Floyd Mayweather's legacy a great deal if he was to win them.

    While taking the cherries of Danny Garica and Keith Thurman would be decent wins, it's not something Mayweather hasn't done before. Fighting Gennady Golovkin a fearsome natural middleweight puncher or challenging Ward at Super Middleweight when Mayweather is small for Welterweight is not realistic. Call Mayweather a coward for not doing it if you want, but nor would you in his shoes.

    Here are 3 more realistic options:

    48th fight- Manny Pacquiao at 147

    Yes, the ship has sail so much on this one it's almost sank, but it still remains the biggest fight in boxing today and will likely break all PPV records.

    What it accomplishes for Mayweather's legacy if he wins:

    - Pacquaio is the consensus #2 in the division and Mayweather will unify the lineal, WBC, WBO and WBA titles.
    - Pacquiao is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer and arguable ATG name to have on his ledger, still ranked in nearly all pound for pound top 10's and a most top 5's.
    - Pacquaio v Mayweather doesn't go down in history as the biggest fight that never happened and does not detract from his leagacy as much.

    49th Fight- Winner of Kell Brook vs. Amir Khan at 147 in the UK

    This fight would be much bigger if taking place at Wembley stadium on dual PPV.


    What it accomplishes for Mayweather's legacy if he wins:

    - Mayweather would unify all 4 major belts at 147 and I believe would be the 1st man to do so at 147 in the fractured titles era.
    - It will be Mayweather's 1st fight outside his home country and traveling into hostile territory to get a win
    - Win over another top 5 rated conternder
    - Equals Rocky Marcanio's 49-0 perfect record if he choose to retire
    - And should Brook be the opponent it would be the 4th unbeaten fighter after Corrales, Hatton and Alvarez he has beaten in a world title bouts.

    50th fight- Winner of Canelo Alvarez v Miguel Cotto at Middleweight

    With these two men's fanbase a fight with either is another huge payday for all involved

    What it accomplishes for Mayweather's legacy if he wins:

    -Mayweather would pick up a the Middleweight title, making him a belt winner in his 6th weight class
    - A retirement after this bout would see him beat Marciano's perfect record as a champion who retired.
    - A win over Cotto would be another win over a hall of fame bound fighter, a win over Canelo, even at 155 would suit Canelo better than their prevoius bout and be more impressive in that Canelo had moved closer to his prime, and Floyd further away.



    Thoughts? :think
     
  2. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** Khan and Brook and as for Cotto vs Canelo he's beaten both of them.
    If he fights 3 more times the fights that would enhance his legacy are Pacquiao, Thurman and GGG
     
  3. Super Hans

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    Thurman does absolutely **** all for Mayweather's legacy. Who has he beat and what's to say he's not the latest in a long line of Golden Boy hype jobs?

    The Brook/ Khan winner would have an IBF title and if Mayweather beats Pac first and then unifies all 4 titles he would be the 1st guy in the fractured title era to do so at 147, and if he does it in the UK in front of 80,000 people even more legacy defining.

    He has beaten Cooto and Alvarez, you are right, but not for a middleweight title. GGG is not realistic, we all know that, and the lineage of the title Cotto currently holds is of far greater significance than the one GGG has too.
     
  4. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    " Mayweather is small for Welterweight "

    Im so tired of *****s bringing up this bs and thats what it is BS! Floyd is not a small ww!!! There are some idiots who actually believe could easily fight at 140lbs:patsch The same floyd who couldnt make 144lb catchweight for the Marquez fight.

    The 2 fights floyd should fight are Manny and then Cotto/Canelo. Now imho floyd doesnt need any of these fights for his legacy as his legacy is already set. This is just fights the fans want to see.
     
  5. Super Hans

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    Believe me, I'm far from a *****, but Mayweather is not a big welterweight. he barely cuts any weight at all to make 147.

    And how much do you think Floyd actually tried to make the catchweight v Marquez?
     
  6. second to none

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    If Floyd is going to fight at MW then GGG should be realistic, instead of fighting guys he's already beaten testing himself against the best MW GGG, What does Khan add this guy was destroyed by Danny Garcia at 140 and by Prescott at LW you say Thurman adds nothing to his legacy but yet Khan will? Thurman at least is an unkown quantity who i personally think is the best opponent for him outside of Pacquiao and GGG, Khan has already been sparked out twice and lost of Lamont Peterson FFS he adds nothing to Floyd's legacy.
     
  7. Pravda

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    Pacquiao End Thread
    No one cares about Thurman or Khan
    A Cotto fight would make more than the first because of the perception that he is better, Canelo fight would make less because he was so disappointing the first fight.
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Yes, Khan still has a better resume than Thurman, particularly if he beats Brook- a far better fighter than Thurman has even approached being in the ring with. Say if Mayweather beats Thurman, who then becomes another Victor Ortiz and loses every fight after- so what? Just because you think Thurman is the real deal doesn't mean ****.

    You also avoiding the issue of Mayweather being the first man since the era of several world titles being introduced to unify all 4 at welterweight. Thurman only holds an interim belt which nobody recognizes as a world title. Hopkins enhanced his legacy by doing it at Middleweight, Joe Clazaghe at Super Middle, Holyfield at Cruiser and Heavy, Tyson at Heavy, Whittaker at lightweight. You are also avoiding the issue of Mayweather finally travelling to hostile territory and winning a fight in front of 80,000 people.
     
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    But if Canelo beats Cotto for the Middleweight title it would be great for Mayweathers leagcy:

    -It would be a world title in a 6th weight class.

    - If he does it above 154 all the Drainelo stuff would be a mute point as Mayweather would beat him at a weight that favoured Canelo more.

    - Canelo would be closer to his prime and Mayweather further removed so it would more than likely be a more competitive fight.

    - If Mayweather beats him in his 49th or 50th fight then retires he will equal/ break Marcaino's record as an undefeated world champion.
     
  10. Pravda

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    I think it'll be a moot point because I don't see Mayweather moving up, he knows Canelo won't be weight drained and he wouldn't have any sort of advantage. It would be great for his legacy but could also go horribly wrong, Floyd tends to be very risk adverse.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

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    Great thread Hans (of which you've made a regular habit lately).

    This is the most realistic path to 50-0 available to Mayweather that involves neither box office compromise (ie Thurman) or insurmountable crazy risk (ie Golovkin)

    The great thing about him looking so mortal and even at times almost ordinary in the Maidana series (and progressively more so between I & II) is that all three of those start looking very much like pick'ems. He could stumble on any of those steps or bound over all three safe and sound. Intriguing!
     
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    Why does nobody mention D.Garcia?

    in my mind he is like 80% likely Floyd's next opponent
     
  14. Super Hans

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    :good And if he does it this way, then retires he will add to his ledger:

    - Retired 50 and 0 surpassing Rocky Marciano's perfect record.
    - Won a title in a 6th weight class (and the lineal one at that)
    - Become the 1st man to unify all 4 belts at 147 since there was 4 belts.
    - Beat his main rival and probably the most highly rated up the ATG lists he has ever faced in Pacquiao
    - Traveled outside of the US and won & successfully defended a belt in hostile territory.

    Obviously it's not enough to make those TBE caps look any less stupid but he will certainly rise a few places in the lists of the best ever fighters.
     
  15. Super Hans

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    He is probably likely, but would it be that impressive to Mayweather's legacy? Garcia doesn't have any notable wins at 147- sure it's an undefeated fighter who's a champ at 140, but it would rate some way behind his win over Ricky Hatton.