If Marciano Was Such A Dynamite Puncher?

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Nah, Dawson got rough with the slam and Hopkins tried to draw a DQ. Not a knockout, just a mess.

 

-Nah, I know you. You have a very preditable act. If Marciano fought and KOed Young, you would be in this thread saying Young was KOed by Earnie Savers quicker, Cooney stopped him too, he lost 19 fights, he's really a LHW he had multiple fights under 190 pounds, blah blah blah ..etc.


-You calling Moore a liar? You often post Archie Moore quotes and take his word as gospel on other matters.

'I had another fight I am ashamed of and that was against Len Morrow, the second time I fought him. In our first fight, I landed a low punch and extended both arms in apology. While I was wide open he threw a sneak right hand shot that hit me square in the kisser. A year later I fought him in Toledo and punched him into the hospital. In the seventh round I knew I had him and I could put him away at any time. But I was mean and angry at him, so I waited until the tenth. But I was a little too mean. He got concussion and nearly died. He has never been any good in the ring since then. I'm sorry for that.'

 

-I don't think Moore is a liar. I think he certainly believes Marciano got a break. Looking at from his point of view in the ring, I'm sure he was fired up, smelling blood, and was like "I got him! what the hell is ref doing!"

-I don't accept anything without question nor would I expect anyone else to. But it seems like a plausible story that shouldn't be completely disregarded. Morrow seemed to be on his way to becoming a terrific fighter regardless. I wouldn't rule out the possiblity of Morrow catching Moore cold. He had KO wins over Billy Smith, Ftizpatrick, and Godoy as well.

But you are suggesting Morrow hit harder than Maricano because he KOed Moore quicker 7 years earlier? That's what you are implying and its rather simplistic and naive.

-Yes, I said the Foreman thread was a wankfest. Get over it. For somebody who constantly trashes other posters, freely hurls insults, and maintains a nasty bitter tone, you sure are sensitive.

 

why did Lennox Lewis go the distance with Ossie Ocasio, who was 5"11 and ko'd by the likes of John L. Garner,Dokes in 1,Holyfield

and why did Levi Billips go the distance with him, Billips was Ko'd in 1 by Corrie Sanders,Ko3 by Michael Moorer, Orlin Norris in 1, Vitali K in 2 and Witherspoon in 1 also Ko'd by Jeremy Williams

 

atsch Joe Louis took some guys the distance that were KO'd by others. You could say the Same for Sonny Liston.

The films and KO% shows Rocky was a great puncher. Rocky moved people violently when he landed. Perhaps not the most accurate puncher. Perhaps not cunning puncher, but a very good one for sure.

Oh wait, you're the guy who thinks Marciano was slow handed.

 

"Moore was kod in one round by lhvy Leonard Morrow when he was a prime31 years old"

Given the context of this statment it is clearly a suggestion that Morrow hit harder than Marciano based on the result. Which is again, naive and overly simplistic.

Your continued faux outrage over that post is cute and amusing in a crazy old man way. If you can loudly fart and poop pants everytime you get outraged by it, you would have quite the act.

 

But if you are presenting the case of "Marciano was not Dynamite because Morrow knocked out Moore quicker a long time ago," You are certainly comparing Marciano's power negatively to Morrow. There's no way around it. You don't even seem to know what you are saying anymore.

You know, they say old age is a return to infancy. So I guess you have to learn life's golden rules all over again. I'll induldge. "In the future McVey, if you are rude to people, don't be shocked if they are rude to you in return."

 

change the name of this boxing site.

open discussion, reports, facts and considered based opinion no longer matters... Marciano another, just another nothing special.

 

What it boils down to is that rather or not Moore had been knocked out in the past or not, he had a 7 year run heading into the Marciano fight in which he was never knocked out and may have suffered just one knockdown to Johnson.

So regardless of the reasons, he was apparently not an easy guy for LHWs or HWs to drop or knockout in this timeframe. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that it took a huge effort from Marciano to finally put him down. With his back to the ropes, Moore is moving and rolling with everything Rocky is throwing at him, making him miss in bunches. The knockdown punches aren't really clean fully torqured shots, they are short clipping arm punches that Rocky is having to adjust to land on the elusive target. Finally, the double left hook lands clean on Moore's jaw, putting him down for good.