mike tyson innocent or guilty?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Listen if you want to drool over men then knock yourself out, no need for insults sis!
     
  2. halbrikj

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    dude, you're not funny at all, you basically took my insult, changed "castro" to "muscle beach," and hit send. be original...
     
  3. Claus Holmen

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    I think Tyson´s got the same intentions to anyone he opposes. He´ll either f.... or eat the person. Sometimes he got knocked out and sometimes he got convicted. It is about doing the right thing in any given situation - he forgot to respect the noble art and he forgot to respect a no.
    Is he innocent ?
    There is no answer but the one allready given by the jury.
    We are told - he is able to control himself these days - let´s hope that´s true.
     
  4. Wass1985

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    :hi:
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    Exactly.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, it's funny, he was known for being a se'x pest and molester for years - and this started before he was famous.
    But people want to defend him and cast the victim as some evil b!tch.
     
  7. Wass1985

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    The same can be said for Oscar Pistorius, anyone with common sense can see he murdered his girlfriend but you can't use that to convict someone.

    I didn't think he had a leg to stand on.....
     
  8. Azzer85

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    But it could be the story of the boy who cried wolf?

    Tyson himself said hed done a lot worse than what he was convicted of, so in some ways he felt the sentence was deserved.

    I think this is where Tysons 'multiple personality disorder' kicked in where he knew he was innocent but deserved the sentence.

    Hence his strange actions post prison, one minute hes a religious muslim, next minute hes biting peoples ears off, next minute hes crying.

    Tyson pre prison seemed to be a 'less confused' individual.
     
  9. HerolGee

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    probably the drug taking effects were kicking in, to be fair.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Tyson said he did it. He's a thug who just happens to have a personality and world class boxing skills. But outside the ring, he's still a thug.
     
  11. Azzer85

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    When did he say he did it?

    He was recently, just a few days ago, swearing on live TV to a commentator who called him a convicted ******?
     
  12. Azzer85

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    Could always be that.

    But Holyfield made some intersting comments on the situation.

    He said Tyson genuinely changed for the better post prison, when he converted to islam, but the media were hell bent on winding him up and poking and prodding to get a reaction and then Tyson finally erupted.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Tyson has made vague statements about him "doing a lot worse things" but he's never been specific.

    Truth is, he's never actually admitted (to his 'fans', his public) to being any sort of se*xual offender or se*xual sadist or ******.
    Oh, he might have admitted to being a "se*x addict" who cheats on his wives with wh0res and groupies, but that's really not even in the same ballpark.

    Also, he knows that to many of his fans and 'on the street' and even amongst serious criminals, **** is a lowly crime, and a habitual se*x offender is a lowly criminal and frowned upon. A ****-o is a sad creature.
    So, to vaguely say "I've done worse" sounds, to many of his fans, like he's got some extra street cred ... because shooting people up, 1st degree murder, aggravated assault grand larcent etc. might be what he means by the "worse" .... in the minds of the blinkered fans .... and those things are WAY more 'gangsta' than ****.
    ..... or of course, we could surmise that Tyson had raped and/or killed little children ... but, we don't think he's saying that.

    Despite all this confessional "I was a scumbag", "Here's the uncensored explicit details, the undisputed truth" crap that he's peddling, the truth is Tyson NEVER tells the whole truth, and changes his versions of events, or maybe he just cannot remember what he's done.

    Tyson's quite a clever guy and realized a long time ago that there was no way back for him unless he owned up to a lot of sh1t and stopped pretending to be blameless, and it helps that people are interested in 'car crash' celebrity stories ... BUT despite all the confessionals and everything, why would anyone really believe that he's ever telling the entire truth ?
    Sh!t, even just before his book came out he announced in a press conference that he was a liar, and an alcoholic, and then put that in his book as an afterward. I mean, is that even true ? Is he an alcoholic on the verge of dying ? And if he was, and he lied about it, then why believe everything else he said?

    It's the old thing, if he was lying then how do we know he's not lying now?
    Moreover, does Tyson always even know when he's lying?

    Don't get me wrong, there are a million people worse than Tyson, and in many ways I think he's a fairly decent guy, but he was a manipulative untrustworthy character his entire life with some serious issues, and a bit of a creep and always looking for sympathy.

    We have so much evidence on Tyson's character and behaviour, stacks of it. Stories of him being a sE"xual sadist and a molester were seeping through even back in the days when he was being protected.
    Yet people want to say this unknown woman Desiree Washington is a vile b!tch and a liar, based on a very little and unsubstantiated gossip.
    That's double standards.

    Of course, it could be a case of the boy who cried wolf.
    And it could be Tyson wanting us to think that.
     
  14. HerolGee

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    probably just being a randy powercrazed uncouth youth (not that men have a right to be like that at all!), and the girl thought she'd teach him a lesson that got out of hand. I am suspect he didn't hit her. Has Tyson ever hit someone in public outside the ring?

    edit - whoops yes he has allegedly! rrrroad rrrage.
     
  15. HerolGee

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    Everybody lies. Except Superman, and Brienne of Tarth (perhaps).