Who would you send in if your life depended on it ?

Holyfield had more than enough power and was rough enough to handle Tyson in the early 90's, don't forget he did it with the much heavier Bowe.

Young Holyfield was way busier and threw better combinations, he gets Tyson out even quicker IMO.

 

Holyfield did not have enough firepower to get Tyson out of there in '91. Bert Cooper took everything he had and got stopped on his feet in 7. Plus the headbutting wouldn't play a role either.

 

Holyfield DID have enough firepower to get Tyson out of there in 91. Cooper getting stopped on his feet is about as relevant as Holyfield knocking Douglas out whereas Tyson couldn't, basically **** all to do with it.

Here we go again, it sure wasn't the head butting that made Evander victorious.

 

Yes, it was the headbutts.

 

Yeah ok if you say so.... :rofl

 

Cool

 

Tyson could finish what Lyle couldn't (literally nil my ass). And no, Tyson didn't show much of a stamina issue in his prime.

 

I said I would have to choose between Foreman and Montreal Duran a day or so ago, but I think this fight could go in a bit of a different direction. I would like my odds with Jack Johnson.
First off he could play mind games with Tyson and have him intimidated. Johnson himself wouldn't be intimidated either, with all the racial tension he faced, and winning in the face of adversity, I don't think he's afraid of anyone.
Secondly he has a style similar to the one that Holyfield used against Tyson. He had a good jab that he could use as well as a tremendous defense. He could tie Tyson up and was a great in-fighter.

 

You easily say the same thing about Douglas to be honest.

Outside of the Holyfield fights, Bowe didn't really do ****.

 

Tyson hit harder than anyone Bowe ever faced.

And it say Tyson's chin was better than Bowes (Tried and tested).

Mathis gave Tyson problems, but Mathis was also Tysons first real test after a 4 year absence.

What happened with Bowe/Mathis......?

How did Bowe do against Ruddock? Oh wait, he fought a poor mans version in Hide who had Bowe out on his feet (Bowes own words).

It will be fun while it lasts, but Tyson will wear Bowe down and take him out.

 

Put Tyson in with Holyfield 3 times and he wouldn't do ****, the beatings would surely take their toll.

 

Tyson never fought and won anybody who was as complete a fighter than Bowe.

Where does it say Tyson had a better chin?? Bowe wasn't ever knocked out on his feet and stopped by the average hitting Holyfield, the same cannot be said about Tyson.

Err Bowe took Mathis apart, what happened against Bowe and Cooper? A fighter that fought like Tyson....

They didn't fight as you know, what you do know is that Bowe would have battered Ruddock in a more convincing fashion than Tyson did.

I agree it would be one of the best ever while it lasted, Bowe would do a job on Tyson on the outside and would take him apart with his superior inside game and stop him in the mid to late rounds.

 

Tyson did take 2 beatings from Holyfield, on top of beatings from Lewis and Douglas and Ruddock.

They didnt take their toll because Tyson was made from a totally altogether different metal to Riddick Bowe.

 

And Bowe never fought a puncher in Tysons class.

Tysons stoppage against Holyfield was more due to exhaustion than his chin, hence why he finished the fight on his feet. The commentators touched on this after the fight.

I said Tysons chin was tried and tested and Bowes isnt/wasnt, you could argue Bowe fought a total of 4 good punchers, Hide, Cooper, the average hitting (your words) Holyfield and Golota. 2 of these guys had Bowe down and one had Bowe out on his feet and the other pretty much pummeled him for the first round (on another day, a better fighter may have got Bowe out of there). To me there are severe question marks about Bowes chin on top of that he has a leaky defence.

Also is it a bit of a coincidence, in an era of punchers, Bowe fought next to none? whats even more of a coincidence there was another fighter, also trained by Eddie Futch, who also fought in an era of punchers and faced none of them either, except one who used him like a rubber ball, a guy called Joe Frazier?

And these two guys fought decades apart :think

Cooper was beating the hell out of Bowe in the first round, if Bowe did that against Tyson hed be fast asleep. Tyson took Mathis out in 3, Bowe was lucky he didnt get DQd against Mathis.

Im not convinced, Bowe never fought a puncher the calibre of Ruddock. Bowe liked to mix it up, so hed be much more vulnerable than say Lewis was. Also Tyson wasnt at his best when he fought Ruddock, with the benefit of hindsight, we can see Tyson had begun his decline.

Tyson stopped plenty of guys who'd never been stopped before, Bowes inside game = Tysons firing range, coupled with a leaky defence and question marks about his chin, point to a Tyson ko or stoppage. Tysons power is more proven than Bowes chin ever was.

Nobody stood in front of Tyson without paying the price. Yes Holyfield traded with Tyson in rounds 10 etc because he knew Tyson was out of gas. Anyone who stood in Tysons firing range normally got caught.

Berbick, Tubbs (who tried to fight Tyson on the inside), Bruno. The guys who survived against Tyson were those who kept out of harms way (the complete opposite to how Bowe fights)

 

No get your facts right, Tyson wasn't man enough to take a second beating from Holyfield and fouled to get a way out.