Who would you send in if your life depended on it ?

Tyson wasnt out on his feet against mediocre fighters like Cooper and Hide and wasnt on his ass against Andrew Golota (despite being even more past it than Bowe).

Face the facts, Tyson was a superior fighter to Bowe. The only thing which ties the two together is Evander Holyfield.

Other than the Holyfield wins, Bowe didnt do much. Outside the Holyfield losses, Tyson did a whole lot more :good

As for the question of chins. Bowe has been down 2-3 times.

Tyson has been down 3 times as well (or 5 if you really want to include Williams and Mcbride) (and one of those was a bodyshot/poor balance vs Holyfield).

So in all, Tyson has been down vs Holyfield, just as many times as Bowe has.

 

Even so, 2-1 against Holyfield.
Holyfield was better than anyone Tyson beat.
Bowe softened Holyfield up for Tyson, and Tyson still got his ass kicked.

Yes, Buster Douglas beat the crap out of Tyson.
I see your point.

 

I'll say it again Tyson never fought a fighter in Bowe's class and won.

Tyson's stoppage was all about getting caught by that right hand to the temple and never recovering, he was basically knocked out on his feet at the end of the 10th round.

I said Tyson's chin wasn't all you make out it was, he was knocked out against Douglas. Stunned badly in the second round against Holyfield and stopped by him in the 10th, something Evander couldn't do against Bowe. Please show me in the Cooper fight where Bowe was in trouble?? He never was in any trouble against Hide either, he might have mentioned being hurt but he was never in any trouble. Tyson said he was hurt badly against Tillis in his book, so what doesn't mean anything.

No Cooper was doing well for a round before getting knocked out, he was also defending well in the 1st from the uppercut by using the cross arm defence, something Tyson didn't do. Tyson would have been eating uppercuts from the start.

Tyson never fought anyone with the punch and all round ability and ever won. Ruddock although a big puncher telegraphed his Smash like crazy and that's basically all he had, he didn't have half the workrate and nowhere near the arsenal of Bowe.

Holyfield stood and traded with Tyson from the get go and had him hurt in the second round, he basically bullied the bully and Tyson had no plan B. Just imagine what the bigger, stronger, harder hitting Bowe would have done with his exceptional inside skills..

 

Please show me where Bowe was out on his feet against Cooper?? Trust me if Hide caught Tyson he'd be out on his feet, Holyfield had him out on his feet in the 2nd round of their first bout.

Face the facts, if Tyson had 3 hard fights against the superior Holyfield there's a good chance he would be washed up early.

As for the question of chins, Bowe has never been knocked out whereas Tyson has been knocked out 4 times.

 

Tyson didn't do anything of note after the first Holyfield fight.

 

Exactly he's talking as though Tyson did well after taking his beatings, basically the Holyfield fight finished him.

 

Beating Holyfield doesnt mean an automatic ascension into greatness though does it?

Outside the Holyfield fights, Bowe has NO legacy. Even with those wins, people still dispute whether he was actually great or not.

Tysons resume is much better than Bowes.

Bowe was active during one of the best periods in heavyweight history, he beat Holyfield....and who else?

At least Frazier, had Ali and some of the other big names of the 70s.

 

I agree.
And it's not just Tyson.

There are a lot of high-rated all-time heavyweights who would be greatly diminished after 3 fights with the 1992-'95 Holyfield.

 

Tyson, Lewis, Moorer, Stewart all fought Holyfield twice.

Bowe is the only one walking around like a zombie.

 

He did beat........Andrew Golota :nut

He also beat Botha and knocked out Etienne who knocked out Brewster who knocked out Wladmir Klitscko.

He also kod Savarese in much quicker fashion than Holyfield and Foreman did.

What did Bowe do after the Holyfield fights?

 

Regardless of how many names he beat, in the period 1990-'95 I cannot see anyone with a record that is clearly better than Bowe's in the same period.

 

Err he beat every fighter he ever fighter he ever fought barring Holyfield, please name me fighters who Tyson beat that Bowe couldn't?

Please don't say Golota, Bowe won and wasn't the same fighter he once was.

 

So did Bowe.

 

Come on you know Tyson quit like a ***** the second fight instead of taking his beating.

 

Outside the Holyfield fights, Bowes record was indeed **** becaus indeed outside of Holyfield, he beat nobody of note.

Like i said before, Bowe just turned up, beat Holyfield, lost to Holyfield and basically faded into obscurity.

Douglas turned up, beat Tyson, lost to Holyfield and faded into obscurity.

Theyre both the same, although Bowe was mentally much stronger and better managed.