mike tyson innocent or guilty?

Interesting opinion and i see your point.

But Desiree Washington has accussed someone of **** before, and this was her boyfriend (ex). They had $£x, she felt ashamed and cried ****.

Ok a ****** is a criminal, im not denying that, but what about a woman who cries **** after consensual ***? and that too with a boyfriend? to me those women are just as bad.

Ruining a girls honour via **** is just as bad as a girl screaming **** after consensual s3x (and dont act like it doesnt happen)

I do feel there is/was a much more sinister side to Tyson than is known.

After the Savarese fight he says 'I went to bury my best friend Daryll Baum'. Daryll Baum is the guy who shot rapper 50 cent 9 times and was then found dead later. Tyson apparently put a 50k contract on the guy who did it.

Also in Tysons book by Peter Heller, Tyson was planning on having Teddy Atlas murdered. They said he was planning on doing it in such a way that nobody would ever suspect it was him.

The night 2Pac was shot, theres footage of Tyson hugging both 2Pac and Suge Knight after the fight and Tyson gives Suge a very dirty look. As if he knew what was about to go down.

 

Sections of the media are scum.
But none of them had the power to make Tyson employ a posse of hanger-on thugs and spend his days in strip clubs.

I'd say it's pretty clear he didn't really try very hard with the whole clean-living muslim thing.

 

Yes, but again, we don't have enough evidence. This isn't proven. A guy came out and said it, maybe he was a Tyson fan, maybe he had some other issue with his ex-girlfriend.
It's one story. It's one smear. It's one alleged incident. Yes, it needs to be considered.

But weighed against the DOZENS of stories that came out about Tyson being a s"ex pest, before and after the case, and ALL the other stuff we've seen or heard about Tyson, and even stuff he's admitted to .... we've hardly got anything on this woman.

None of that would surprise me. And I'm not going to judge. These guys were all in the game. Teddy Atlas tells in his own book how he was going to shoot Don Lalonde dead for cheating him, even went to his apartment with loaded gun (luckily, I thnk Lalonde was not home).

Of course, we know how the Tyson-Atlas feud started.
Teddy's niece.
Tyson "innocently, playfully" grabbed her ass.

 

She was 12-13, he was 15. This **** happens

I used to have a girl wank me off in our English class when i was 15

 

Yeah that story of Atlas's niece really never seemed to bother me. This happens all the time, everywhere. I can see if Tyson tried some other stuff but grabbing her ass hardly gives someone the green light to shove a desert eagle in your face.

 

Tyson finally broke his silence about the issue a couple of years back.

he said the real reason Atlas was butthurt was that Tyson wanted to stay with Rooney and Cus and Atlas wanted Tyson to come with him

 

You believe every word your hero says, your posts are full of "Tyson said this, Tyson said that." The man is a born liar and master manipulator!

 

Except we don't actually know what happened. Tyson admits to grabbing her ass. Atlas doesn't quite specified what was done or said.

The thing is, on the one hand, Tyson wants us to believe he was a ghetto street fighter at 11 years old, who grew up around the pimps and wh0res of Brooklyn in an over-s'exualized ghetto environment where dirty talk and promiscuity were the norm even among the kids. Seems likely.

But on the other hand, at 15, he wants to say he just playfully and innocently, horsing around, touched this girl's ass, just an innocent naïve kid thing. Maybe.

Whatever, the pattern of behaviour didn't stop at 15. It got worse.

 

Of course.
And when Jose Torres wrote that book in 1989 that included quotes from Tyson about liking to hurt women, Tyson gave a similar explanation about Torres' motives.

Of course, it's all a huge conspiracy. Every allegation, rumour and incident. Every crying woman or distressed little girl, they either lied or misunderstood the boy. Every dodgy Tyson quote that suggests a F"cked up attitude towards women. It's all a big misunderstanding. It was all sour grapes, all about getting Tyson's money.

 

Exactly, poor Mike. Lets all blame Don King and all the others for his downfall, he was a grown man who had the world at his feet, he only has himself to blame!

 

That is true, nobody knows what actually happened.

Although in a documentary ive got i think Peter Heller or someone mentions he made ***ual overtures to her.

Probably tried to get her into bed.

 

Riddick Bowe after the first Holyfield fight:

'Mike, thanks for the inspiration, i hope you come home soon'.

 

Tyson was a huge *******, if he didn't exactly raped her he certainly did something wrong there that night.

 

Well, with Riddick Bowe as a character witness, Tyson's well and truly f*cked !

 

He possibly said he wants to give her a womb-shifter, and use his d*ck to drive her nose bone into her brain ...
... but of course, that's just conjecture.