Hopkins greater than Jones if he beats Kovalev

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  1. Cisco Route

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    You had better go help your mom, she's late getting her testosterone shots...
     
  2. GGGIsABum

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    I probably say, Hopkins was robbed. :yep
     
  3. Cisco Route

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    :deal

    I can't wait to see how the TOMATO KAN Krusher's bandwagon gets abandoned after the Ole' Man takes him to school...
     
  4. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ****** is a bloodsucker
    he would only make a match like that if his hand was forced
     
  5. Mind Reader

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    Hopkins' longevity is special.. And it makes it a close call..

    In my opinion the deal breaker was that Roy has a victory over Hopkins at MW, and Hopkins priced himself out of a fight with Roy 2002 because he knew he would lose IMO.

    Roy is the greater fighter.
     
  6. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins is greater then Jones in my opinion what he has done is pretty much unbelivable. If you could go back in time 15 years ago when he was 33 and ask around if you could imagine hopkins winning over the light heavyweight champion(twice) , middleweight champion before the age of 49 there wouldn't be many who belived it.

    He's the defenition of an legend and an all time great. h2h there's not many who could take on Jones.
     
  7. MVC!

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    This is NOT a unification bout. But this win would be massive to his career.

    If he wins this, he should go unify with Stevenson. No matter what happens there, retire afterwards

    He has nothing more ever to prove.
     
  8. TheGOAT

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    :thumbsup:deal

    Popkins 4 President!
     
  9. HoldMyBeer

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    Stevenson would balk at kovalev if he wins, but I bet he'd go for hopkins
     
  10. Loudon

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    I respect your opinion.

    Longevity is a major factor when ranking a guy.

    But it's only one factor.

    There are also many other factors to consider.

    I don't see how Hop is greater.

    Roy achieved more etc.
     
  11. Loudon

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    How?
     
  12. Loudon

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    But how can that surpass what Roy's done?

    Do you agree with my criteria?

    Is there anything you'd add, or take away?

    :good
     
  13. Loudon

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    You can't surpass someone just based on longevity though.
     
  14. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    H2H, Prime 2 Prime, Jones will always be greater. That's just the way it is.

    Hopkins has much better longevity, but he is well out of his prime.

    No shame in that anyway, prime Jones was immense.
     
  15. Loudon

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    Rate their wins, their manner of victory, their achievements, their dominance, their circumstances etc.

    Put forward a case where Hop rates higher.

    Floyd has incredible longevity, and Ray Leonard didn't.

    Who would you rate higher?

    There's so many factors to consider.