F.Mayweather will be a top 10 ATG once he retires with a perfect 50-0 record

Floyd in the 40-50 range. Pac will rank much much higher than that.

 

top 20, top 10 is hard to get there even though hes the best i ever seen

 

'sounds about right

 

Highly doubt that.

Both have a bunch of Hof'ers they beat. Both have mutiple weight classes. Thing that might hurt Pac is what hes doing now compared to Floyd. I had Pac ranked higher but Floyd is still dominating, holding 2 lineal title at the same time when Pac hasnt had one since Hatton at 140 and didnt even defend it. unfied champ at 2 weight classes at the same time. Mayweather has passed Pacquiao. fighting Canelo helped Mayweather with lineal title and unifed champ, beating Rios and Algeri has done NOTHING AT ALL FOR PAC

 

I think over time he's going to be in range of top 25-35 or thereabouts. I know there's a lot of negatively to his cherry-picking his comp but there is no denying his talent. Funny thing is might have been a top 10-15 fighter if he just fought everyone worth fighting, even if he lost a couple of fights he'd get more respect than simply avoiding them.

 

It's crazy how many people hate Floyd, want him to lose, want him to retire, refuse to give him his just due for continuing to win fights and for beating fighters that many people say he wouldn't fight. They say he is not that fast, not that quick, his legs are shot, he runs too much, his aging, slowing down, can't hurt a fly, boring etc etc.. But yet, people still want him to fight guys at 160 who will probably be entering the ring on fight night weighing close to 175-185 to prove his greatness; this only shows the high standard you all have have for Mayweather. Does any other fighter currently garner such expectation? Do people ask Pac to go up to 154 or even fight a legitimate 147 guy. Bradley and Marquez were/are not legitimate 147 fighters. Mayweather did fight Marquez but remember when he left, Marquez was the consensus number 2 behind Pac in which Pac only inherited because Mayweather left.

Pac had his chance, refused 40 million dollars which would have been his highest payday in which he then goes and takes an 8 million dollar payday and loses.

As it stand now, Pac will not get 40 million dollars, he will not get to negotiate terms, nothing will change . Mayweather will and should dictate all terms. If pac really wants to fight, thn he has to give in or no fight. When Mayweather fought Oscar, do you understand the level of negotiations between the 2 of them. Oscar was the cash cow, Oscar was the man, Oscar was the draw, and Oscar had Mayweather jumping through hoops. Mayweather said put whatever you want in the contract send it to me and I will sign it. He did this because he knew Oscar called the shots.

Pac doesn't realize this. His camp thinks they have a say. NO THEY DON'T!!!

 

Mayweather should fight Timothy Bradley (someone who will end up being a future Hall of Famer). It's an easy win for Floyd and WILL add to Mayweather's resume.

 

If Floyd wants to call himself TBE and If his fans think he's a rop 10 great with a top 3 skill set (a common ***** opinion) then why not want him to step up and fight guys like GGG to prove his greatness?. Look at Duran. He started as a skinny bantam and ended his career past his best and chubby fighting monster middles and even fighting at super middle when he was totally shot. He fought a top 2 ATG middle when he was past his best and obviously much smaller. Then he fights and beats 6 foot 1 Barkley who hit like a train. He also never forced a catch weight like Floyd would do. Barkley ended up fighting at light heavy im sure. He was a monster middle.

If Floyd and his fans claim such greatness and ability then he should be good enough to step up weights to prove it. He already has but better/greater fighters went further and proved themselves while doing it, even if they took some losses along the way. Durans loss to Hagler is better than any of Floyds wins. First to take Marvin 15 and was up on the cards after 12.

I dont hate Floyd I just think he's overrated. One of the most overrated ATG's in history.

 

Actually he does have a say cause he can just not sign the contract, which is exactly what he should do if Floyd trying bring that attitude to the negotiating table.

Try another approach ask yourself what needs to be done to make the fight happen, this is a far more interesting exercise.

 

atsch YDKSAB. Before the DLH fight, What was the average ppv numbers of Floyd ? 1.5M , 1M, 500k or above 200k ?


Manny Pacquiao already holds the record for winning titles in eight weight classes. Now, he has tied a record in the pay-per-view world.


Manny Pacquiao also a PPV champion
Updated: November 23, 2010, 2:04 PM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com

Pacquiao matched former heavyweight champ Mike Tyson as the only fighter in pay-per-view history to generate at least 1 million buys for a fight in three consecutive years. HBO announced Tuesday that Pacquiao's one-sided battering of Antonio Margarito on Nov. 13 at Cowboys Stadium to win a vacant junior middleweight title -- his record-extending eighth -- generated at least 1.15 million buys and $64 million domestic pay-per-view revenue.


Pacquiao is the cash cow too.

Pacquiao is the draw too.

Pacquiao is the man too.



Pacquiao matched former heavyweight champ Mike Tyson as the only fighter in pay-per-view history to generate at least 1 million buys for a fight in three consecutive years

Not De La Hoya nor Floyd. Only Tyson and Pacquiao. hi: