Floyd Mayweather vs. Amir Khan speculation & discussion

Luckily in Finland we don't have to pay for those fights,altough it's extremely rare to see legally boxing in Finnish television.

It's amazing how americans are willingly paying for these match,luckily lots of people are opening eyes at last.

I'm first fan of boxing,i don't care if my favourites has losses.i want to see them and every other boxer facing best fighters.

Way too many people have used to this,and keep defending these matchups.and keep finding excuses,why it's okay.

I have used examples on different sports how ridiculous it sounds that best athletes or best teams don't face each other,i know different sports and different system.

I still can't but laugh,everytime i think Rafael Nadal at final of Us Open saying he wants to play tennis against past his prime Roger Federer instead Novak Djokovic because he could lose.

Many people keep denying it,but casuals thinks that boxing is somekind of circus nowadays.people don't have no interest seeing missmatches and paying for it,whatever the sports is.

boxers also should compete more often,seeing these champions 1-2 times a year,against fringe top 10 fighters is not interesting.it would be okay of course,if they would fight more often.people also keep ripping off Duran's of world because they fought some bums,yes that is true.but when you fight 4-10 times a year you can't always compete against the best.

 

So what some of you are saying is that the top available opponents in your weight class is not good enough? It looks like people are liking for people to beat Floyd and not who deserve the fight more.. If a person has great ko power and speed but keep losing somehow, people would want him to fight Floyd just because he could cause trouble.. If a come forward puncher wins his best fights in his weight class and climbs the ranks, he doesn't deserve a fight because he had no chance? I don't understand...

 

He always shoots himself in the foot when he opens up that mouth , its just sad whenever he begins to speak .

 

I say again,i'm floyd fan.

I don't excatly want to see him lose,only want to compete against best.

All i hear is blaa blaa from mayweather and some other fans.

The so called TBE had 4 fight left probably in his career,and he spends it fighting two times against Maidana and one time Guerrero.and most of us will accept that?maybe we should start demanding something more?

Earlier somebody said Guerrero fought two top 5 WW to earn his shot,as i already said most ranking lists are biased and crooked.they could even put me to top 10 if they wanted to do that.

Guerrero and Maidana just happened to be at right place at the right time.

Yes,some matches are harder to make.and as i said i mostly blame this corrupt sport where we are now.Guerrero and Maidana both were not Best WW'S around,they were only subsitute options.no matter you spin it and blame Top Rank etc..

I think because i'm Finnish and English is my second language i can't explain properly what i mean,or maybe i'm miss understood.

I accept Guerrero and Maidana as opponents,but i'm not thinking they are top rated WW'S and totally unproven.and should have done more to earn Floyd fight.beating Aydin,Berto and Lopez,Soto Karass,Broner is not great archievement and many fighters have claims to be at that level or couple of steps ahead.

Cold facts remain.Floyd fought 2014 two times against man who not so long ago lost Alexander and Khan,beating Soto Karass,Lopez and Broner how in the earth we can justify this?
You can spin it,flip flop it whatever you want.

But cold fact is there are better fighters Around WW limit than Maidana right now.and we should not accept that number 1 fighter at WW spends whole year fighting against fringe Top10 opponent

 

who do you consider the best at 140-54?

 

Floyd and Manny if we speak talentwise,altought 154 we have couple of big monsters who could beat both

Ahead of Maidana and Guerrero?

Lara,Andrade,Kirkland,Alvarez,Trout,Martirosyan,Bradley,Pacquaio,Marquez,Brook,Porter,Alexander,Mayweather,Khan,Garcia maybe i missed couple of names

Floyd have fought only against Alvarez and Marquez on that list.maybe i'm biased but to me those fighters are better and would be better on Floyd resume.of course there are couple of names who we could drop from there because they were little bit unknown at the time.

But definetly Lara,Trout,Kirkland,Bradley,Pacquaio,Garcia,Khan would be better names on your resume at the time than Guerrero and Maidana.yes some matches would be difficult to make.

Floyd is not even close to clean 140-154 at the moment,that's my opinion.

Do you rate Guerrero and Maidana top10 between 140-154?

 

Funny that Zab Judah didn't have unfinished business with Baldomir. That fight came immediately after his loss.

 

khan hasn't done **** to earn the shot.

 

Difficult to say trying to rate the 10 best between 3 division's I might put Maidana in around 9/10 but I'd have to think about it, just to comment on the names you mentioned though.
@JMW Maidana & Guerrero have done way more than Andrade, Kirkland, don't know about Vanes to much, Canelo beat both Trout & Lara and has shown he was clearly the best there nobody else has done more than him in the division.
@ JWW Garcia was/is considered a cherry pick & Khan ducked both Guerrero and Maidana in the last year. @ WW Brook, Porter aren't more proven and have only made a name this year, Alexander was considered a cherry pick when his name was brought up last year.
Which leaves Marquez already beaten, Bradley on record saying they can't fight and Pacquiao who turned the fight down twice between the three I'd pick Guerrero to beat JMM & Maidana to beat JMM & TB. Of the names he hasn't fought I'd only rate Bradley,Pacquaio, & Garcia as better names. some aren't there yet(Andrade,Brook,Porter) some will never be there(Kirkland) others lost there chance and need to bounce back(Trout,Lara,Khan)

Maidana is a legit 2 division Champ(JWW/WW) Guerrero is a 4 weight titlist(WW,LW) and a legit 2 division Champ(FW,SFW) which is more than a lot of guys will every accomplish.

 

why, does khan never avenge his losses? is he the only boxer that never has!!

 

Exactly what I was thinking when I read that.. It's like people want Floyd to wait around while the "more talented" fighters start winning and earn a fight instead of whoever earn it gets it.. Person x should fight Floyd because he is better than person y, even though he lost his last fight to person z who Floyd just beat.. He is ducking Bradley thigh he just lost his last fight and arguably his last 2 almost 3...

Speaking of which, why don't people complain that all you have to do is beat Provodnikov to get a fight like Bradley and now Algeri.. They both squeaked by him too...

 

post that again detamour, just to be sure what you mean

 

Well he doesn't deserve a fight more than Garcia. At least Danny is the lineal champ at JWW, is still undefeated and has a KO win over Khan.

I wouldn't have a problem at all with Khan getting a fight with FLoyd but he should earn it like everyone else. He hasn't looked too good in the past few years, he's been very inactive and he's only campaigned once at WW against a shot Luis C0llazo who is at least 6-7 years out of his prime.

he doesn't have to avenge his losses to get a shot at Mayweather, but he should at least put up a couple wins at WW against some credible guys. There's no way he's more deserving over guys like Pacman, Bradley, JMM (he's been at the weight for a little while now,) Garcia, Cotto, Lara or even Thurman.

IMO all those guys I mentioned are much more worthy of a fight with Floyd. Personally I'd like to see him fight Manny and Bradley/Garcia and call it a day. Khan isn't worth anything for his legacy if he uses up one of his 2 remaining fights on him.

 

See, this is where you look stupid.

Because boxing has been this way for over 100 years.

And you pick one guy to rag on. He is no different than the other stars of his era (Pacquiao, Wladimir, etc.) and none of them are any different from the stars of other eras (Dempsey, Leonard, Robinson, etc.) when it comes to what you are complaining about.

I don't disagree with you. But why hold one person to a different standard? That's just tunnel vision. If you were alive 80 years ago, you'd be complaining about the same thing with the fighters who were around then.

 

This topic got something to do with Floyd,in other topic i also said Pacquaio is also victim of this.many modern fighters are.

And boxing was different 50-100 years ago.Robinson,Walcott etc.. Are turning in their graves when you said that boxing was no different.

How many times Ali fought clear cut number 1 or 2.

This is stupid,i bet somebody can flip flop this around and make claims that Ali,Duran,Robinson,Walcott etc.. Ducked their main opponents and only fought fringe contenders.

Floyd Mayweather is skill wise one of the greatest,but resume wise hes accolades could be used as a toilet paper.

And boxers from past also fought way often.if you happen to fought 4-10 times a year,it's okay to fight mediocre opposition sometimes.

Floyd foughts 1-2 times a year and he has missed many years to fight against the best competition.

Yes it's not always Floyd fault.but godsakes stop defending that man so much