Roy Jones Jr vs Michael Nunn At MW

I went with Jones on Points but I say that with no real conviction. While Roy was a much better fighter on an all time sense, middleweight was Nunn's chosen division. Roy wouldn't fully develope until he was at super middle - light heavy. He was still very green at 160 where Nunn was a superstar. Jones' speed and athleticism might be enough to earn him a points win, but Nunn was quick as well, and had a reach that might negate some of Jone's additional quickness. Very tough fight to call.

 

One of the tougher fights for Jones at this weight. Roy is about the fastest middleweight I've seen, but Nunn was no slouch either. Not quite as explosive or quick, but still extremely quick and he had height and reach to compensate and was a great mover.

It would be very interesting to see who can establish their gameplan the best. I think Jones would try to counter and land the odd lead left hook, and Nunn would be quite happy to stay behind the jab and throw exploratory right hands, but not committing to too much.

Neither would commit to any sustained attack and neither would want to be the aggressor. Very interesting clash of styles...neither man ever faced anything quite like the other and both had qualities that could be a problem for the other guy.

I really can't make a prediction with any conviction either way.

 

Nunn does an early Tarver #2 on Jones, years later PowerLoudon claims Jones was green.
If Jones caught Nunn as drained as Nunn was vs Toney, Nunn has to settle for a Tarver #3.
Nunn was as tall as Tarver and of the same stance but quicker.
Regarding Jones' being "shot" vs Tarver I repeat here it here, Tarver was:
1) Older than Jones
2) More spent due to cocaine, lengthy amateur career, age and whereas Jones' pro career was supposedly longer, he took less punishment in it than what Tarver took during his pro career alone by the time he fought Jones.
Tarver fought Mohammed Benguesmia, Eric Harding*2 and Montell Griffin before he fought Jones.
He also fought quite a shot Reggie Johnson whom was still more relevant than most of Jones' opponents by the time and state that he fought them, even if it was an even more shot Reggie Johnson than the one Jones beat.
3) Tarver was (as a fact) more drained than Jones was in each and every one of their fights due to being bigger and actually having to fight at a lower weight (175) than in his amateur days (178 ).

 

Have to go with Nunn to peck at him from distance and win over the distance.

 

RJJ wins this. Nunn was good, but RJJ just too fast, even for Nunn. RJJ might even stop Nunn in a similar way Toney did, except he wouldn't have to come from behind to do it.

 

Didn't know Tarver had dabbled with cocaine.
Is it just me or is that why Leonard's win over Hagler is more impressive knowing that he did quite a bit of cocaine when retired, come out of retirement and beat one of the best MWs ever?

 

Agreed.

Horrible fight to watch. Lots of boo-birds in the audience here. Zero risk taking in there by either guy. Zero exchanges and there may not be 5x the whole fight when they are both punching at the same time. Lots of taunting and so forth before the fight and at the end of rounds and everything, just nothing during a 3 minute round.

But I don't see Jones landing much on this guy. That tall target and a southpaw with a safety first style just doesn't leave automatic openings. Not from that far out on the outside and early Nunn circled and backed up anyway. Neither guy is going to cooperate with the opponents strength's and it's a decision bout all the way. Roy's wide right hand leads aren't landing clean against this southpaw and Nunn is only going to jab and not even throw a hard shot. More like lots of Calzaghe type punches and he'd land about 25%. But that'd still be a lot more punches landed than Jones lands.

This would be about as exciting as a Hugo Corro bout or ST Gordon/Berbick.

 

Jones would be hit more than normal but I see Jones walking Nunn down and knocking him out similar to the Harding or Reggie Johnson fights. Those fights weren't KOs ofcourse but Jones was much more aggressive at MW and SMW

I don't see it Nunn kept his hands low and came into range way too much and wasn't particularly elusive at all. Plenty of far slower boxers didn't have too much trouble landing on Nunn.

 

If Leonard did Cocaine at all before Hagler it was probably very rare.
Leonard's "win" over Hagler is meaningless due to Leonard had his way before the fight with the:
1) gloves (the size of them)
2) ring (the size of it)
3) duration of the fight (12 instead of 15)
4) Advanced age and accumulated wear and tear of Hagler whereas Leonard was both younger and got 2 rest retirements.
_ fact that it was Hagler's last fight whereas Leonard had like 5 fights past it.

*) Even in terms of size and weight, Leonard was no longer a welterweight, was taller, and as we know Leonard's fights history it is expected to assume that Hagler had trouble making the weight for some mystical reason, despite being a small middleweight. So it was a lightmiddleweight vs a middleweight and not a welterweight vs a middleweight the way prinzmanspoppa and his likes like to portray it.

 

You are the biggest joker on this forum.

Ha!

Congratulations on making us all laugh.

How many times are you going to push this Tarver nonsense?

You really haven't got a CLUE have you?


1. Roy is seven WEEKS older than Tarver.

2. Going into the fight, Roy had fought 50 times, and had turned pro at 20, in 1989. He'd also been through 5 weight classes, and had just dropped 20 pounds in 2 months, coming back from HW. Tarver didn't turn pro while 28, and had only fought 22 times. These are facts.

3. It doesn't make a difference if Tarver rehydrated to a higher weight, because he didn't have to burn muscle, to go from 196 - 175, with a body fat percentage of only 6%.

4. No, Nunn wasn't knocking out Roy in just 2 rounds.

5. Do you yourself a favour, and go and see a doctor.

 

Meaningless?

atsch

Ray wasn't even an inch taller, and their reach was around the same.

Going into the fight, Ray had only boxed twice in five years, and hadn't fought at all for over three years.

Marvin was slightly past his best, but so was Ray.

Also, the only reason Marvin retired, was because he was outraged at the decision. Had he won, he would have fought on.

So yet another ridiculous post by yourself.

 

The post you quoted and your own post already answered everything in this post of yours so you have your reply.

Ray was more than an inch taller.
It was a lightmiddleweight vs a small middleweight.
Except from this sizes comment my answer is the same as to your previous post.

 

Nunn on points

Jones struggled with the best tall rangy southpaws he faced and Nunn was better than Harding and Tarver

 

We'll leave it there. :good