The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

:gayfight

 

95% of these haters have never laced up a pair of gloves and have no idea what's really involved in the sport. That's why they have so little regard for it. I come on this site for kicks and giggles and am surprised when an actual intelligent discussion breaks out. You can tell the people that have actually been involved in the sport and those that are just keyboard tough guys who live vicariously through some boxer they are fanboys of.

 

Boooyaaaaahhh!!!!!!

 

* For every observer who scored the fight for Castillo the first time around, you'll find another who scored it for Mayweather. It was a closely contested fight that could have gone the other way, but that certainly wasn't a requirement. Hardly a robbery, and a close Mayweather decision is a perfectly reasonable result. So was the decision that he received over Maidana. Just because a fighter troubles Mayweather doesn't mean they actually win the fight.

* Marquez was the p4p number two guy in the sport at the time he met Mayweather. History features several cases of smaller guys coming up in weight to defeat larger opponents, in spite of the fact that they weren't necessarily suited to the weight at the time. So, there was some speculation that JMM would pose a few problems for someone coming in, based on the fact that he was so damned skilled- and on the fact that Mayweather had been out of the ring for over a year and a half.

The fact that Mayweather came in off such a long layoff and shut out one of the best fighters in the past decade, allowing him very few moments of success is pretty remarkable, mitigating circumstances notwithstanding. Had those issues not been apparent, this would have been a really, really good win. As it stands, it's a win that is quite good, at any rate.

* Mayweather had previously called out Mosley before, going back to when he was beginning his reign at 130 while Mosley was still kingpin at 135. So it's not like Mayweather wasn't prepared to face SSM prior to when they fought. Also, it should be noted that Mayweather-Mosley was made only after negotiations with Pac had ended. Mosley, even an ageing version, was still considered to be an acceptable alternative under those circumstances. Plus, even with the layoff, he was coming off his best victory in years.

* DLH was certainly past his prime, but he was still a reigning titleholder at 154, and was coming off a pretty impressive annihilation of Mayorga. So, even if he wasn't the same fighter that he used to be, he could still fight at that point. Plus, he had faded the later rounds as early his fight with Trinidad. It was something that periodically was an issue throughout a good portion of his careerof his career.

Of course, part of that has to do with what the opponent is doing...and in the case of Mayweather he was making DLH miss quite a bit during the early portion of the fight. That's something that's gonna tire a fighter out, regardless of how far along they are in their career.

* He missed out on some fighters like Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito...but it's not like either of them really had placed themselves into a position where Mayweather had to fight them. Margarito wasn't even a titleholder (having lost to PW) when Mayweather took his hiatus at the end of 2007; and by the time May returned, he had been eviscerated by Mosley. Williams, in the meantime, was trading fights with Carlos Quintana, and was spending more time at 154 and 160 by the time Mayweather returned.

Mayweather missed a couple of other guys, like Casamayor at 130, and KT at 140...but then again, Casamayor really didn't separate himself as being on a different level from guys that Mayweather had defeated (like Corrales and Castillo). And Kostya was on the way out by the time Mayweather entered the 140lb weight class.

Obviously he's missed out on Pac as well. Then again, both fighters (and their promoters/handlers) are probably responsible for that being the case.

Still, Mayweather's fought a solid selection of opponents and by and large handled them in pretty convincing fashion. Can't ask for too much more than that.

* In any event, the bottom line is this:

Mayweather's been fighting at an elite level for sixteen years now. That's an incredibly long time, even taking into account the layoffs (which can often work against a fighter) and the fact that he utilizes a defensive style (which wasn't always the case and which hasn't prevented him from standing in front of guys like Maidana and Cotto for extended periods of time).

I don't have Mayweather all that much higher than Gannicus in terms of my own all-time great rankings (he's probably situated inside my Top 30-40). But that's based largely on what the other fighters rated higher were able to accomplish, rather than what Mayweather wasn't able to do.

Because, based on what he's been able to do, Mayweather has clearly earned the status of an all-time great. And all time greats don't come around that often.

Let's enjoy them when they do.

 

Floyd Money Mayweather is ranked 20-25 by knowledgeable boxing aficionados/experts and will go down as a top 10-15 great when he retires at 50-0.

That's a fact.

Pac avoided him at all costs in 2009. Roach confirmed it.

That will hurt Pac's resume way more than May's.

 

Great post,Drew.

 

Yes, top notch post, Drew

 

That's incorrect. Maidana and Ortiz both showed up to the negotiating table ready and willing to make a deal, and they both signed their contracts. :deal

 

I don't think the real cormega would swing on anyone's nuts so bad. Maybe tho. To me your just dragging the name of a great mc through the mud of Floyd's balls. Yea, the mud of his balls.

 

Pac: 60/40 to the winner

Floyd: Health comes first

 

Now that's a fight fan ! Hell yel !

 

That's nice. This thread is about Pacquiao, though, and judging by the butthurt insults and lame deflection tactics it would appear that nobody can refute my point. :hey

 

*****s are holding onto the past for dear life. We are talking about current events here dude.

 

Oh you made a point?

 

Well, at least this thread makes for a good update to the block list.