The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

They've both said some head scratching ****.

 

absolutely. 2 greats, the standouts of their era, contrasting styles and stances - it should've been 1 for the ages. instead, by not happening when it should've, it represents everything that's wrong with this era. pity.

 

Great post! :good

If every thread on here (or the majority of them) was like then this place would be the best main forum for Boxing on the net.

 

Mayweather fans in action

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Troll thread like this doesn't deserve any answer lol

 

completely agree. apparently so do most boxing fans. of course you will have fan boys (check their nuthugging post history) who will come up with nonsense to dispute it then pat each others ass and stomp on the ground to pretend theyre saying something. they wont matter in the end.

 

Post JLC II opponents who had opportunities they couldn't capitalize on:

1. Shane Mosley missed the best opportunity to win..

2.JMM working PBF's body was the most stellar body work I've ever seen against PBF and JMM didn't win a round on my card... Better shot than Maidana.

3.Zab Judah's inconsistency derailed a great opportunity to stop Mayweather but he didn't quite have the ring generalship..

4. Maidana I - "Not enough Moxy" to quote Box Nation....

5. ODLH - You gotta hit something Oscar....

6. Phillip Ndou - Gave his all til he went down !

7. Arturo Gatti - Punching Arturo in the head and face affected PBF's hands for the next 2 fights but Gatti was so busy getting rocked he never noticed...

 

Mayweathers record - 47-0.. Maidana didn't come close to winning the 1st fight. Any sane referee would've DQ'd him. Groin shots and chest kicks aren't part of the sport last time I checked... And Maidana got picked off in the middle of the ring for 7 rounds straight ..

2007 version of ODLH was in the best shape of his life since the 1999.... And had never boxed better that decade. Never !

JMM - Boxing genius who consistently whooped PACMANS ass everytime they met ! Didn't win a round against Money... Deal with it ! JMM was the same that he ever was..

All the naysayers said Mosley was a beast but after the ass-kickin , of course now he's through ( just like PAC will be LOL..... ) !

The reason you've been left under whelmed is because you see this sport from a pure entertainment perspective as opposed to the perspective of the people who take the shots and give them... Guarantee you bro... That's a much different mindset. And a lot of what you think that may be relevant to the sport or a fighters career would be in serious question based on the perceived meaning of your post...

 

I know exactly which list you are talking about, and everyone knows that you love making excuses for your man.

 

His resume/achievements is underwhelming considering how great it could have been, and relative to some of the other ATGs whom he gets compared to. There's idiots who actually buy into the stupid "The Best Ever" marketing tool, which is ridiculous.

He is indeed a great fighter, someone with real top-notch skills and ring smarts to go with his athleticism, and by most standards, his resume is great.

Compared to numerous other ATGs, his resume is weak.

 

He was in better shape against Mosley in 2000. He was super-sharp, Mosley was just sharper, quicker, and DLH didn't fight the smartest fight either.

I don't even think DLH really tired that much either, maybe mildly, but Mosley tired even less. And he hurt DLH to the body.

DLH was physically as sharp as ever in the first Mosley fight, it just wasn't good enough to beat Mosley.

The DLH at 154 of the early 2000s was better than the 2007 DLH at 154.

 

Then that would make him a product of his era. I heard that about a lot of fighters post 1990... Maybe there's nobody to fight. Because he's fought everybody who ever had a real shot...

Margacheato - No chance. Stands right in front of PBF and his eyes would be swollen shut by round 7...

Kosta Tszyu - didn't have the boxing ability particularly since and ol' uncle Roger got his ass kicked by him and the blueprint would've been fairly simple. And if they would've fought at that time Tszyu would have never found him in the ring..

Whoelse do the naysayers say he never fought ?

 

More like 7-11 years past De La Hoya's prime. The DLH of 2003 at 154 who fought Campas and had the rematch with Mosley @ 154 was noticably declined since the late 90s/early 00s.

Although Mayweather was unimpressive against DLH with his subpar offense (save me your Compubox crap), I do think that Mayweather has that "extra gear" that Oscar lacks, in addition to being more well-rounded. So if you had them in their primes, I think Mayweather would fight better and raise his game. 140-on down, I pick Mayweather by decision. Oscar from 1997-01 at 147 might beat Mayweather at WW though, as well as the Oscar from 154 of 2001-02.

 

No he wasn't he had rib issues and had gotten starched and sent to the hospital at the Azteca boxing club.... I think it was Margacheato that did it. why he was sparring with Big slow dudes bfo Mosley II, I don't know. But Oscar was not using during the time he fought Floyd. He'd been clean for more than a year.. Mosley II I'll never believe he was clean at that time in his life. Maybe during camp and the fight but not before or after....

 

You don't get points for what you WOULD have done, and extra points just because you are in a weak era and WOULD have beaten so and so if the competition was tougher.

Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano have better records on paper than Muhammad Ali, but most people rank Ali higher due to opposition level.

It is what it is.

Mayweather and Pacquiao not fighting each other is a huge stain on both of their careers, and an embarassment to the sport. It would have silenced many of Floyd's critics if they had fought in 2010-11, or even 2012, but they didn't.

There's not exactly a lot of ATGs hanging around, and very rarely do they compete in the same division. There were 2, and they fought at WW, and they didn't fight. If Mayweather fought him in 2010-11, and beat him as I suspected he would, his ATG rating would have shot up considerably.

But he didn't, and that's how it went. So his ranking is lower than it could/should have been.