Britain's Top 10 All Time Middleweights?

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCallum-Collins was a horrific mismatch for the first five rounds. Then 16-fight Collins had him running away for the rest of the fight.

    McCallum-Watson was incredibly close after the first two rounds, one judge had it 6-4. A lot of McCallum's work was blocked and if it wasn't for his immense chin the Jamaican would've been KO'd many times over.
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Indeed Watson did NOT bottle it. I did clarify that in my original post. Watson was a favourite for the fight and I like many others was cheering him on. That he was so badly outclassed gave an initial jerk reaction of he had bottled it. But as the story unwound it was clear it was a case of McCallum being that good, and Watson being slightly off his game.
     
  3. Ryan the Lion

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    McCallum beat Collins alright, but The Bodysnatcher was really struggling at the end of the fight as Collins put it on him. That's why the Bookies had Watson the big favourite going into the McCallum fight.

    McCallum might have won most of the rounds in the Watson fight, but he stole a lot of them. After the first two rounds Watson started to force McCallum back and bounce monstrous rights off his head all night long. Even at the start of last round when Watson collapsed from exhaustion more than anything else he was hitting McCallum with big right hands. McCallum himself went on record saying that the Watson fight was hell, so for other people to say it wasn't competitive is just so so wrong.
     
  4. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your on drugs
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is a possibility that the whole Benn, Eubanks, Watson, Collins axis has become over appreciated as one big group due to them having the fights amongst themselves?

    Would be interesting to see what the later, lesser regarded fighters such as Eastman, Woodhall and Reid would have done with them.

    I have a feeling Howard Eastman at his best was actually better than that entire set of fighters. His close loses in title fights and dominant wins over mediocre opponents around Britain/Europe at that fight being as good an indicator of quality as Eubanks/Benns/Collins/Watson's wins in amongst themselves.
     
  6. Bulldog24

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    They proved themselves against the most dangerous Yanks - Don Lee, Barkley, Lindell Holmes, McClellan ....Lee, Holmes and McClellan had the kind of KO reel KO's that you don't see from fighters today, 10x the fighters that Jeff Lacy was.

    I also feel Collins deserved that decision against ultra-slick Reggie Johnson, right on the back of Johnson being robbed against Toney.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Who did Reid beat at 160lbs?:huh:huh:huh
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    Eastman, Woodhall and Reid are nowhere near the same class.
     
  9. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, bulldog24 is the infamous atberry, his head is so far up Eubank's ass it's a wonder Eubank can walk properly. :lol:
     
  10. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you can accurately gauge the level of Benn, Eubank, Collins and Watson from their fights against other world class opponents. It isn't as if they just fought each other in a long round-robin series; they collectively fought the likes of McCallum, Reggie Johnson, Rocchigiani, Kalambay, Barkley and McClellan, not to mention world titlists Pyatt, Galvano, Malinga, Holmes etc.

    Many of their most famous fights were against each other, but they were tried and tested against the best fighters of the era.
     
  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you imagine Woodhall or Reid in with Iran Barkley? It would be ridiculous.
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Collins did really well against the master Kalambay and should've won it on workrate. It was like a better Calzaghe-Hopkins without the money involved.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Any chance anyone answering the question posed in the title of the thread?

    Steve Collins is IRISH ,how is he relevant to the best middleweights in Britain?:patsch
     
  14. atberry

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    Yeah why bring Collins up? He didn't come along until 95. Benn/Watson/Eubank started their series of fights in 89.
     
  15. atberry

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