Timeline of the heavyweight division decline.

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    and your problem is what exactly? Do a top 10 list and let's see how it unfolds.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem is for the North American fan we, (or at least I) don't recognize many names and if you don't recognize names you feel, rightly or wrongly, that the fighters aren't very good. I couldn't name 7-8 fights that Wlad beat unless I actually studied.
     
  3. Seamus

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    After Foreman-Ali in 74, the decade was abysmal. Manilla was the story of two equally shot fighters damn near killing each other. It gets high marks for drama but only because both were so debilitated coming in. Then we get defenses against Coopman, Evangelista and Young and Dunn, a horrible decision versus Norton and the title actually going to Leon Spinks!

    With a very occasional blip, the 90's gave us wall to wall great action with the deepest pool of power punchers the division ever saw. Tyson, Morrison, Moorer, Bowe, McCall, Lewis, Foreman (again), Golota, Briggs, Bruno, Ruddock, Rahman, Cooper… It was a giant and fertile crossroads for the division. We got to see the absolute primes of three Greats in Bowe, Lewis and Holyfield.. two faded legends in Foreman and Holmes make historic statements, and the nutty, sometimes brilliant, often disastrous career that was Tyson. Those of us in the know were able to watch the beginnings of the two future greats in Vitali and Wladimir.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not buying all the excuse I'm sorry, it's not easy to accept defeat i guess.
     
  5. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very good post!
    I may add I thought Young edged Ali too. The late 70s were abysmal.
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    i think tyson could've beaten holyfeld because throughout his career evander would always get sucked in a war. it cost him his first fight with bowe.
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield had Tyson's number, the better all round fighter.
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    sorry but fotc and thrilla in manilla pisses over any match in the 90's.
     
  9. Seamus

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    Fight of The Century was amazing. However, one fight does not a decade make.

    Manilla was high drama but the fighters were shells of their former selves. Very overrated from a boxing sense.
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    here is my top 10 list
    10. Tyson
    9. Johnson
    8. Dempsey
    7. Holmes
    6. Frazier
    5. Marciano
    4. Foreman
    3. Liston
    2. Louis
    1. Ali
     
  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    fotc, rumble in the jungle, foreman-lyle, lyle-shavers, holmes-norton, holmes-shavers, young-norton etc.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    How's that?
     
  13. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    I don't know about that thesis.

    80s
    Tyson, Holmes, Weaver, Holyfield, Thomas, Witherspoon, Coetzee, Spinks, Berbick, Page, Tucker, Cooney, Dokes, Bruno, Douglas, Smith. With Teofilo Stevenson never turning pro and George Foreman's early retirement.

    90s
    Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, Foreman, Ibeabuchi, Moorer, Douglas, McCall, Mercer, Tua, Morrison, Ruddock, Golota. With Felix Savon and Roberto Balado never turning pro.

    00s
    V.Klitschko, W.Klitschko, Byrd, Rahman, Peter, Sanders, Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev. With Roberto Cammarelle never turning pro. Alright, this is a weaker era.

    So far the 10s aren't looking great but they aren't over and we still have six more years to turn things around.
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    exactly. thats what im saying. the hardest puncher of the 90's is old foreman, which is a far cry from young foreman.
     
  15. Seamus

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    Do you even think about what you are writing?

    Foreman in the 90's was a harder puncher than Tyson, Ruddock, Tua, Lewis, Morrison and Briggs?