Was Marco Antonio Barrera still in his PRIME in 2003 against Pacquiao?

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  1. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    yes he was a huge underdog bareera was a prime ATG no one gave a chance for pac to win :deal
     
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  2. STB

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    6 months earlier...

    Didnt Tszyu retire after the Hatton fight? So how on earth would he bein the p4p rankings at the end of 2005?
     
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  3. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Florez, Sep 29, 2014
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  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Pacquiao beat Barrera so convincingly (which he did) what was the point of the rematch? Cherrypicking perhaps?
     
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  5. fytelod

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    big bear was on fire
     
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  6. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes but he had just received one of the biggest gifts of the decade against morales
     
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  7. ValentinePrince

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    Barrera 1 was Pac's best win.
     
    ValentinePrince, Sep 29, 2014
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  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Good win IMO. Can't discredit Pacquiao's victories pre-2008.
     
    alexthegreatmc, Sep 29, 2014
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  9. Thread Stealer

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    If he wasn't prime, he was really close to it.

    Barrera was more aggressive in the mid 90s, although he still possessed boxing skills and showed it at times. He was using his boxing more by the time he fought Pacquiao. He surprised a lot of people in the style he beat Hamed in back in 2001, but it wasn't something he didn't have in his arsenal.

    At the time the fight happened, I was happy that Pacquiao won, but I did wonder if Barrera had declined considerably. Although less than 30, he started boxing as a pro very young, and had a lot of mileage on him for most fighters his age.

    Then came 2004 when he had a great year.

    Barrera made nice comebacks following the losses to Junior Jones, the (official) loss to Erik Morales, and then the loss to Pac.

    There's been numerous guys who peaked at 21-23. Every fighter is different.

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  10. Staminakills

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    obviously most of you guys don't even understand "prime".
    prime is when you're at your best, meaning at your optimal weight, meaning the fighter is at his best, physically and mentally.

    in NO way was mab close to prime at 29. he wasn't even in his true weight class. paq was like 2/3 weight classes above him on fight night.


    prime isn't because you are on a winning streak against inferior fighters. most of you need to learn athletics as a whole, never mind boxing
     
    Staminakills, Sep 29, 2014
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Money-grabber for both guys.

    A pretty pointless fight at that point, but people still bought it.
     
    Thread Stealer, Sep 29, 2014
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  12. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Barrera Prime! :bbb
     
    Florez, Apr 10, 2015
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  13. drenlou

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    96 pacturds DKSAB....:good
     
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  14. Mind Reader

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    MAB is one of my all time favorites, he was prime for sure, just got his ass kicked. no excuses.
     
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  15. Mind Reader

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    I believe "peak" and "prime" are different.. He was prime when Pac whipped him.
     
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