The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Remember we are only talking about elites so #1 "too expensive" doesn't make sense for them. #2 We are not talking about why some one wouldn't use, only users so #2 doesn't make sense. #3 If you could believe all that, it still doesn't explain why some elites would take stringent testing and others wouldn't. If they don't know they are using then would take any test, and increase their probability of being caught, if they refuse then they know.

    In order to believe your scenario their trainer would have to be giving them the best most "undetectable" stuff out there (which they would have to take the word of supplier), be willing to have connection if caught, be willing attempt to throw that fighter under the bus if caught, and be confident enough that he will not be caught under any testing that he doesn't feel the need to tell him. That scenario just asks for too much, and for things to work favorably. When you consider the known fact that some elites take stringent testing and others don't, the "they're all on it" scenario just doesn't work.

    People act as if stringent testing, or cheating is no big deal or nothing to worry about when there is in fact all kinds of things to worry about. Let's say one lab does have the perfect undetectable stuff. That still does not rule out one athlete out of many running his mouth off to the wrong person about it, doing the drugs in a spot they shouldn't be and being seen. Other athletes around them who would notice a change in performance becoming suspicious, investigating, and finding out, and reporting it, (BALCO investigation started with anonymous call).

    Then there's the lab itself, the more successful they are, the more suspicious they become when they start getting that influx in clients. People look at the BALCO situation and read that BALCO started in 88 and assume that's how long it's been going on. Actually, they were legit until 96, and suspicious by 02. That's only six years for it to blow up into situation beyond their control, too many people, too many links, that's how these situation's always end up, and is always their downfall if nothing else.

    This doesn't even include scenario's when anyone in the chain has a change of heart nor many other situations. Then when the investigation's are done, you think they tell it right away? No, they try to catch and out as many athletes as possible which can be done even if an athlete gets wind nowadays as stringent testing holds blood sample for eight years. And yet, people somehow believe that to cheat and take any test is a no brainer situation for an athlete, nothing could be farther from the truth. Boxers duck stringent testing for a reason.
     
  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I still don't understand the idea that Khan is a challenge for Floyd. Khan has speed, yes, but he doesn't have the ring IQ to go with it.
     
  3. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather lying? Never!

    Poochiao you're next! I didn't say that.
     
  4. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    don't forget, Pac still has to leave his promoter :rofl
     
  5. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You guys are hilarious...
     
  6. smooveonthe88

    smooveonthe88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly. It was his reaction. He may be clean, but how he reacted when asked to do testing raised some eyebrows. Or should have. People can talk about the whole "Floyd's not the commission" or whatever...fact remains. Just saying it's not a good look for him...
     
  7. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its obvious he was on peds,he was fighting at featherweight a few years before and all of a sudden hes destroying a huge guy like Margarito,to move up that many weights and get faster,stronger and never tire while being more ripped than ever just isnt possible,his head and jaw grew aswell which is usually a sign of HGH..
     
  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    you got them backing up like danny had khan :good


    all your asking for is a list of theses so called skills i cannot see the problem:bart
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i have this profile of the average ***** as being way below average in iq level and too insecure to admit when he is wrong. he would much rather avoid, redirect and tap dance his way around any question that could force him to face his insecurities. so, i expect you to just ignore my question and disappear, completely change the subject to deflect the focus from you pulling **** out your ass, or act mad and just start talking **** so you dont have to give an answer.
    now, let me ask you, which post did i say that i didnt care?
     
  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    dont forget rachid drilzane wobbled the sh it out of him
     
  12. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mosley wasn't known for his speed?

    OP DKSAB.
     
  13. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The $200M contract is FAKE.It's just to hype Floyd and justify his leaving of HBO. We all know HBO was pressuring Floyd to fight Pacquiao.
     
  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    i was like :? are we both thinking of the same sugar shane

    either he dont know sh it or i have wasted many years following boxing not learning or knowing fookall :nut
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    still not one person is able or willing to explain theses skills
     
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