If Marciano Was Such A Dynamite Puncher?

Very well said.

 

Archie Moore has been quoted on this thread in many posts as questioning Marciano's punching power. As I was not familiar with any such quote, I simply googled "Archie Moore on Rocky Marciano's punching power" and pulled up this article--

ARCHIE MOORE REVISITED

Part two (of a three part series)

by Thomas Hauser

(a respected American boxing writer who has been nominated for a Pulitzer Prize)

Hauser quotes Moore extensively on Marciano in his coverage of the Marciano-Moore fight. This is s quotation described as Moore recalling the Marciano fight in his later years. The article was written in 2013.
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"Rocky didn't know enough boxing to know what a feint was. He never tried to outguess you. He just kept trying to knock your brains out. If he missed with one punch, he just threw another. Of all the guys I fought, Marciano hit me harder than everyone else combined. I felt like someone was beating all over my body with a blackjack or hitting me with rocks."

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This does give a different impression than the alleged "quotes" which have been posted time and time again.

 

"Price"

If I do I typo here, I know I will have to pay for it. Thanks for pointing it out and I have changed the c to a z.

As for Moore's quote, yes, I accept everything he said. Marciano's limited boxing skills meant that a clever fighter like Moore (or Walcott) could protect himself from getting hit by a clean shot,

but Marciano's strength and relentlessness meant that he could pound his way to a knockout w/o ever getting in that single money shot as he did with Moore.

Grinding down is the plan B if the plan A of a clean early knockout blow doesn't come off. I don't find this anything to criticize Marciano for. It is what separates the really great punchers like, for example, Louis, from the second-tier punchers. They can keep throwing them.

I don't accept an either/or here. Grinding an opponent down doesn't mean a fighter doesn't have one-punch power when he lands one clean.

But this part of Moore's quote,

"Of all the guys I fought, Marciano hit me harder than everybody else combined. I felt like someone was beating all over my body with a blackjack or hitting me with rocks."

speaks for itself, and I consider Hauser a reliable source.

 

I think we can safely say that hit very hard and even above his weight as the phrase goes. But due to some technical and physical deficiencies he was very inaccurate. Thus, the grinder syndrome. Power is all that Weil saw in the guy who was stooped, sloped shouldered, balding, short with two left feet and no reach... "but how he can punch!" Was his quote...

 

The trouble with quotes such as this is boxers often contradict themselves. Elsewhere I've seen Moore say that Curtis Sheppard hit him hardest.

 

I agree.

But this quote makes somewhat more sense as Sheppard didn't even stop Moore. Nor did Durelle.

 

:good

 

Ed I have read that before but also read the Durell quote and also read that he said "everyone wants to hear me say Marciano was the best I ever fought and sometimes I give it to them but the truth was that Burley was the best I fought."

 

Why the fvck has this thread, like dozens of similar ones gone on for 21 pages?

You will always have fools who believe that Marciano could knock out Elephants, and he possessed an indestructible chin.

You will also have fools that believe in Batman & Robin. Enough said.

 

Seriously,

stepping out of this debate and taking Marciano off the table for one post

this quote shows the limitations of quotes by boxers. Ezzard Charles beat Burley twice (and I think the fights were in Burley's home town). Burley at the time was the more mature and experienced fighter.

Moore's opinion doesn't convince me that Burley was as good as Charles.