Your scoring for Holyfied vs Lewis 2

Very unusual for Lewis. There's not another fight I can think of where his trunks where that high.

Well, yeah, the protector beneath the trunks likely was a problem. Even with the trunks down, its up to his chest. Very little body exposed as you can see here:

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That's what I was pointing out. Even when he had his trunks normal, the protector was still up to his chest so it didn't matter. Evander wasn't getting through with anything clean below the chest.

Holyfield's body work was more effective in the rematch and made for a closer fight...wander why?

:think

 

Anyone else think Lewis should have beaten the older and battle weary Holyfield much more convincingly than he actually did?

Also, does anyone favour peak Holyfield over peak Lewis based on Lewis' inability to truly dominate Lewis when he was on the way down?

 

This was my exact point I made earlier. If you combine the two fights and not just focus on the last one, it was in it's totality a dominating result.

The first fight should have been scored 9-3 and the 2nd fight 7-5, leaving a combined scoring of 16-8 which is a dominating performance.

So I completely disagree with your premise.

 

It's been a long time since I watched that fight. My impression is that Lewis was more dominant in the first, Holyfield having more success in the second but still losing a close decision. That protector up to Lewis chest is a cheat IMO. I know it happens all the time, but I feel no fighter should make it to the ring if you can't see his belly button. Just saw a cruiserweight fight I think with Beterbiev and his opponent had the same thing going on, if he leaned to one side his protector would almost touch his arm pit!

 

This is the type of fight that demonstrates just how much scoring in boxing comes down to personal opinion, and how at times it is barely quantifiable.

 

You know what was in EVERYONE's mind ?


But seriously, that post (if serious) is an embarrassment on all of its points.

First fight was a drubbing, the most egregious case of robbery in two decades.

The grin on Holy's face at the announcement and his comments tell you how he thought the fight went.

The second fight, while closer, was still a clear Lewis win.

7-5 or 8-4 were acceptable scores.

 

Sorry to get off topic but had Lewis got the decision the first time would the rematch even have happened

 

Probably not.

 

If I remember correctly, it was 7-5 or 8-4 but it was already a done deal heading into the 12th, which Holy won, so it didn't seem that close.

 

Weird thing was Lewis was more dominant over Holyfield in the 1st fight yet only got a draw, yet the 2nd fight he got a decision in a much closer fight...

I dunno ive been watching fights almost 40 years now, and still can't figure things out:conf

I thought the fight was pretty much a draw 50-50 could have gone either way..

 

The 2nd fight was close. The 1st was a clear 9-3 for Lennox (8-4 if you would be generous).

 

Oh man you can't be so wrong. Holy is inferior to Lewis in all physical aspects, not skills.

Lewis is much taller, has more punching power, longer reach and weights 25 lbs more. They are from different weight classes really. Holy has better chin.

As far as skills - Holyfield is far better counterpuncher, has much better left hook (dropped Bowe, Mercer, Tyson), Lewis has better left jab, both have excellent uppercuts but Lewis' is clearly more powerful, both have great offensive skills.