If Marciano Was Such A Dynamite Puncher?

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  1. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never said Heller's quote wasn't reliable.

    It is just that the quotes are not mutually exclusive.

    The Hauser quote is very straightforward about Marciano hitting hard.

    Your spin on the Heller quote is just your extrapolation which I don't share. Grinding down doesn't rule out a man hitting hard.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    No I did not. Which top tanked heavies did Hauge or Gomez knock out?

    Outside of Walcott ( Marciano stopped him quicker ), I can't see any ranked in the top 5 that Gomez finished.

    Hauge never Ko'd anyone that would have been viewed in the top ten in his time.

    Your examples are straight poop. As I said, if there was a poll 90%+ would say Maricano hit harder than these two.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    bingo.
     
  4. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, Walcott knocked out Gomez. Gomez never stopped any top heavyweights.
     
  5. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why this debate is just going round in circles. It's obvious that Archie gave different answers to the same question at different times. Just like Ali's 'he hit me so hard my ancestors in Africa felt it' line was attributed to various opponents of his.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Hauge?
    Q.Did Mac Foster have serious power?
    Q.Did Ron Lyle have serious power?
    Who did they ko?


    Gomez has a near 75% ko ratio,are you seriously saying he was not a top flight banger.

    The poll is in the pudding : I have had 321 replies to this thread in 22 pages! and around 50% agree with my stance!
    You can't even spell Marciano's name correctly!!!

    **** off you MORON!
     
  7. mcvey

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    Neither did Mac Foster or Ron Lyle!Could they punch?!

    I was challenged to provide ten punchers under 185lbs .Despite the fact that Marciano was very seldom under that weight.
    I think I gave 12 :The challenger ,Suzie Q dissapeared when I took up his challenge. You are pretty pathetic on this, you do know that right?
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    You have added jack **** to this thread , just sat on the sidelines agreeing with anyone who differs with me.
    You are a sad dismal twerp but you already know that.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    No I did not. Which top tanked heavies did Hauge or Gomez knock out?

    Outside of Walcott ( Marciano stopped him quicker ), I can't see any ranked in the top 5 that Gomez finished.

    Hauge never Ko'd anyone that would have been viewed in the top ten in his time.

    Your examples are straight poop. As I said, if there was a poll 90%+ would say Maricano hit harder than these two.

    STOP trying to switch topics and going of tangent. Show me one ranked guy Hauge, who you think hit as hard as Marciano did KO'd. Answer the question Claire. You remain a moron.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Unlike you I take challenges up ,we both know you got a severe case of
    DIARRHOEA when I took up yours.:lol:


    HAGUE HAGUE HAGUE. His name was HAGUE! You illiterate ****!

    You cannot even write a sentence without ****ing up ,yet you're calling me a moron?
    ****ing Rainman.:patsch

    Read and learn cretin.


    James William "Iron" Hague (6 November 1885 – 18 August 1951) was a boxer born in Mexborough, South Yorkshire. He was the British Heavyweight Champion between 1909 and 1911. He fought for the Yorkshire Heavyweight title against Dick Parkes at Doncaster on 8 April 1905 winning in the 5th round. He then went on to beat a steady stream of English heavyweights, many by K.O's. He came under the eye of London and was invited to enter the Heavyweight Novice competition held at the National Sporting Club, London in January 1908. This was a series of fights of 3 rounds only. He won this with a series of K.O's. After gaining a few more victories under his belt he was then invited to fight Gunner Jim Moir for the English Heavyweight title on 19 April 1909. He won this in the first round with a K.O, creating a new boxing record for the fastest victory of a title. His homecoming was a splendid affair with thousands lining the streets of his home town. He defended the title once against Bill Chase, knocking him out in the 6th round, but lost it on 24 April 1911 to the up-and-coming Bombardier Billy Wells. This fight was for the first Lonsdale Belt.
    Shortly after winning the title "Iron" Hague agreed to fight Sam Langford, the legendary coloured boxer from the U.S.A.. Langford is rated as being in the top 10 fighters of all time. Hague, controversially at the time, did not believe in a 'Colour Bar' for boxing. He was quoted as saying that "unless all men are allowed to freely compete how can you ever find the true champion". Langford knocked Hague out in the 4th round. Langford said in later years that in all his time in boxing no one hit him as hard as the punch he took from "Iron" Hague during their fight. This huge left from Hague knocked Langford down and he only just managed to rally. Hague had broke his hand with the punch which marred his performance thereafter
    I thought you said you have seen this fight? If you had you would know that Langford turned a cartwheel from the force of Hague's punch, you lying *****.:patsch
     
  11. edward morbius

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    This is a really bizarre overreaction to this post responding to a different poster

    "Actually, Walcott knocked out Gomez. Gomez never stopped a top heavyweights."

    That Walcott knocked out Gomez is a fact. The other poster implied Gomez stopped Walcott.

    And Gomez never stopped a champion or long-time top contender, my definitions of a top man.

    Even if everyone accepts that Foster and Lyle are top notch punchers, that in no way proves that Gomez is. That is totally illogical.

    My Gomez post had nothing to do with your list.
     
  12. mcvey

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    It means that you don't have to ko top fighters to be a top puncher does it not? My list was for Suzie Q not you, what you thought of it is immaterial to me.
     
  13. edward morbius

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    So why did you bring up your list in responding to my post? which was not directed to you in the first place.

    "what you thought of it is immaterial to me"

    I never found it worth thinking about.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Think about this.


    Gómez was born December 25, 1919 in Tampa, Florida.
    Gómez, known as "Tampa Tommy", turned pro in 1939. Although Gómez never fought for a major title, he fought several notable fighters of his era, including Jersey Joe Walcott. He was often ducked by many of the heavyweight contenders of his time due to his fierce power. Gómez was a feared knockout artist, and was named to the Ring Magazine list of the 100 greatest punchers of all time. After 86 professional fights, Gómez retired in 1950 with a career boxing record of 75-9-2 (65 KOs
     
  15. Bummy Davis

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    :good