T.K.O. in 6

Good win, legitimate stoppage when it happened Klits face was a mess. Lewis was coming on strong after a slow start. Would have finished Klit a round or 2 later if ref had not stopped it.

Fact is this was a over weight past prime Lewis against a Prime Klit and Lewis cane out on top, if that fight had happened 4 years earlier Klit would have been decimated.

 

:good If THAT Lewis is fat, then Povetkin and prime Chagaev are obese

 

He could've easily continued on. Even though he was well past his prime when he took on Vitali, he still found a way to win and that was probably the most out of shape version of Lennox I had ever seen in a ring.

The HW division has been so weak for so long that a great fighter such as Lennox, even in his advanced age, would've still dominated the field. Who exactly was going to beat him in the early-mid 2000's?

 

Well...maybe they are!

Are Chagaev/Povetkin almost 30 lbs heavier than when they were in their late 20s like Lewis was?

 

Depends on how he looks. If he's sporting an 8 pack abs, lean muscle, and no visible fat like Lewis was against Vitali, probably.

Wlad's weight range in his past 7 fights has already been jumping around between 241-249. These guys are so big, 5-10 lbs is not going to show much difference on them. I would not be surprised if Wlad starts tipping the scales at or over 250 in his next few fights.

 

-Actually reports of bad training camps do get out quite often. So basically you just have a personal hunch that it was a bad training camp despite the official reports. You can believe in unicorns if you want to, nobody can really stop you.

-Where is Lewis' fat hiding in this picture? Between his sculpted abs..under his lean muscles? This looks like a fat guy to you?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/22/article-0-01E860DA0000044D-258_468x608.jpg

 

When was the last time you heard a guy say before a fight
"We've just had a bad training camp"?

Sculpted abs?? Yeah, the dude looks like a 6'5 timothy Bradley here:roll:

 

And Wlad was coming in the low 220s in his youth as well.

For Vitali...Lewis was only 5 lbs heavier than his bout with McCall in 1997. 8 lbs heavier than his bout with Butler in 1995.

For a large man, he's had remarkable control over his weight since turning 30.

 

-Lewis/Rahman I

-Than that's how you feel he's always looked, because the man's build hasn't changed much in his 30s.

Against Holyfield:

http://www.canoe.ca/SlamHolyfieldLewisImages/weighin.jpg

 

Was he 229 against Bruno when he was 28. So, not his "youth"

And he was known to not take certain fights seriously and be lazy in training at times. Hence the weight jumps.

But he was NEVER as heavy as when he fought Vitali

He was 14lbs heavier than when he fought Holyfield the 2nd time, when he was 34

 

-So when he turned up 251 for the McCall rematch he had been waiting so long for, were you calling him "fat" and "obese" and accusing him of not taking it seriously? I mean he gained 22 lbs from the Bruno fight you are citing as a checkpoint and all.


-And only 7 lbs heavier than his previous fight with Tyson.

-Its not incorrect to say Lewis was at his career heaviest, but it is incorrect to call him "fat", and frankly foolish to assume it was a bad training camp when all reports say it was one of his best.

 

What official reports?:roflatsch

All we have to go off his what he looked like and weighed.. as said above, pretty much every fighter in history says before their fight they had are in the shape of their life.

 

And 5 months later he was 9lbs lighter against Akinwande..

7lbs is quite a bit! Wlad has barely fluctuated 7lbs in the last decade!

And yes, by historical standards his weight against Tyson was quite high too.

And these reports came from his own camp. He has since said he wasnt at 100%. So whose to know which is true.

People always say they're 100% before a fight and they often say they arent after the fight...

 

I already linked you to ESPN.

Bad training camps will eventually make news. Lewis/Rahman I, Tyson/Douglas..etc.

Career heaviest doesn't always equal bad shape. Wlad was just his career heaviest for Peter II, than Thompson II.

 

-Exactly.

-I atually just pointed how that he been jumping around from 241-249 in just the last few years.

-Not really.

-The exact quote was his "best training camp since Holyfield. " And of course the whole reason for going through with the date was that he didn't want to waste a good training camp.