Thrilla In Manilla Round 15

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    After an exhausting 14th round, Ali feels like quitting but Dundee persuades him to go on. Futch finally succumbs to Frazier's begging and pleading for Futch to not stop the fight. What happens during this iconic 15th round?
     
  2. nikrj

    nikrj Active Member Full Member

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    One of the two ends seriously injured ....Probably Frazier...He was practically blind.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    i'd say both would've been injured.
     
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    I believe Ali would have knocked him out or the referee would have jumped in and mercifully stopped Ali from killing Frazier. He was absolutely teeing off on Frazier in the 13th and 14th rounds. As weak of a puncher Ali was the accumulation of all those blows were having a terrible effect on Frazier. He was blind in one eye and taking shots with absolutely no defence.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    ali wouldn't have knocked him out he was way to tired he nearly died.
     
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    That's your opinion. He was beating the **** out of Frazier the last two rounds with renewed vigour, if he had "nearly died" he wasn't showing it. Frazier was the one who was completely exhausted. He was blind in one eye and so tired he could no longer keep his hands up. I believe Ali would have finished him off in the 15th if Eddie Futch hadn't rescued Frazier.
     
  7. BillB

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    I have never understood why Ali fought these long fights- he didn't have to.

    He told us in 1965 that he possessed the secret Anchor Punch that "will knock anybody out".
    None of his fights should have been more than one or two rounds.
     
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    because he was a weak puncher. It took him 44 rounds to to do what it Foreman only 2 rounds to do.
     
  9. nikrj

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    It's interesting to note that, except in the second fight with Liston (a highly suspect bout), Ali never knocked someone in the first round.
     
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    grumpy old man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very little doubt in my mind about that.
     
  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    If Ali was able to continue the way he was fighting I suspect he either stops Joe or wins on points.

    I say if because Ali did melt to the canvas after he got off his stool when Eddie waved the fight off. Ali had won both 13 and 14 big but he expended so much energy late in the fight, a brutal fight that he may have hit the wall physically.

    Ali fanboys will say he was just sitting on the canvas because it was comfortable. Anyway point is we don't know. I don't believe either man would've ever quit.
     
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    he said after the bout that was the closest to death he'd ever been.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    i'd say ali would be injured due more to exhaustion.
     
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    agree 100 % with that last paragraph. every word.
     
  15. BillB

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    Yes, that is interesting.
    Especially, since Ali told us he had a secret punch that would knock anybody out. Why didn't he use it in all of his fights?