David Tua vs Joe Frazier

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  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thats about the strength of it. Joe was NOT hard to hit, and despite what dickheads and numpties say about Tua's resume the boy could certainly hit. I see Joe going up and down like a Jack In The Box, early in much the way he did against Foreman. Stopped on his feet for his own safety.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Tua was slower afoot than Joe and therefore slower to get in to range than Frazier and not as intense in his attack.
    He had his chance at the crown when he fought Lewis , but after sampling a couple of right hands settled for survival and a points loss.
    Lewis would have bombed Frazier out , but at least Joe would have been fighting to win.
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Bang on the money.

    Only on here could you get **** like Marciano, or Louis battering Lewis, and the K2 brothers. SRR battering Calzaghe, and on and on it goes.

    Ten years down the line and some of these numpties will have Pacman beating the **** out of Cruiserweights in their feeble minds.
     
  4. mcvey

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    Frazier had quicker hands and feet than Tua ,he fired his hook ,reloaded and fired again in seconds.
    Tua was more deliberate ,I see Frazier out hitting him to or three to one ,maybe Tua's "one" would get the job done but it's a big ask imo
    Tua certainly has the capability to ko Frazier he hits harder, but not as quickly, or as often.
    I see Frazier winning a decision on work rate.
    Frazier is proven in the fire and I don't think Tua really was.
     
  5. Azzer85

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    Who the **** did Tua ever beat?

    Tua LOST everytime he stepped up.

    Joe Frazier is what David Tua wished he could be
     
  6. Azzer85

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    Whos' Tua ever fought?

    Lewis and Ibeabuchi, both guys he lost to.

    Had Lewis put his put his foot down, Tua wouldnt know which way to run.

    If Tua and Frazier swapped opponents, Frazier would go the distance with Lewis and Foreman would wipe his ass with David Tua.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

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    Tua lost every major fight of his career....It's laughable that he's favored by so many in these fantasy matchups.
     
  8. Azzer85

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    Who did Tua beat?

    Moorer - glass jawed and past it
    Maskaev - glass jawed (and Koed in 1 by Mcall prior)
    Ruiz - ok i give him that.


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    Oh yeah, legends like David Izon and Fres Oquendo.
     
  9. MartinezKOFloyd

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    tua is one of my favorite fighters but he was not a great fighter. i like it this way vince young was better physically than joe montana but i know who my cash is on if they were to ever compete against one another for the starting spot
     
  10. mcvey

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    Frazier had good hand speed significantly faster than Tua's ,and his feet ,though not swift were also quicker.
     
  11. Bummy Davis

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    Frazier work-rate and Pressure may force Tua out of there. Tua Always a danger but slow and sluggish and a few notches below ....Frazier by UD or RSC
     
  12. Senya13

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    In which fight(s) did Frazier show significantly faster handspeed than Tua? I didn't see anything special about Frazier's speed, either in handspeed or footwork.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

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    Ali-Frazier 1 FOTC, Quarry,Chuvalo,Bonavena2,Ellis,Mathis...I said pressure and work rate but he did have better hand speed than Tua as well, Tua looked like he was in slow motion most of the time
     
  14. Senya13

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    Significantly faster handspeed? Where did you see it? There was nothing extraordinary about Frazier's handspeed in the fights mentioned. Some punches were fast, but on average it was nothing special. When Tua was at mid to close range his hands could fly pretty fast too.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Quarry 1 imo.