why do people think tyson has a better chin than frazier?

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    what don't you understand the fact that he was ko'd? goddamn
     
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    Because the numpty doesn't WANT to understand, that his convicted ****** hero was KO'd, as opposed to TKO'd.

    Allow me to tell you, there are still inbred filth in the world that believe Hitler did NOT order the extermination of Jewish people.

    It doesn't alter the reality, it just makes them idiots. The same rule applies to Tyson freaks, and *******s.
     
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    exactly.
     
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    you've got severe mental health issues.

    im just going to ring the orderlies to come and collect you

    you must have been abused as a child
     
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    what part of Tyson was standing on his 2 feet at the end of the fight dont you understand?
     
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    ****ing Frazier had only 37 fights and only one hard puncher opponet Foreman.
    And we can know the history.
    Tyson had 58 fights. The Lennox fight was his 55. fight.
    It's hardly a fair comparsion for Tyson.Try to imagine some dreamfights( Lewis-Frazier,Ruddock-Frazier,Holyfield-Frazier etc.)

    Lewis was much more harder puncher than this overrated Foreman.
    Say only one classic one punch ko win by Foreman against a quality opponent!
    Just some idiotic "blind" Foreman fan troll can't accept this.

    Did Lewis toyed with Tyson.The very bad Tyson won the first round.It's easy to beat
    a fighter who had nearly zero stamina.
    Maybe Lewis landed 193 punches vs Tyson's 49 and it wasn't a full 8 round fight.
    This fight showed a bad Tyson's chin by the idiots' opinion.

    I think a slow,out of shape older Lewis landed only 102 punches/6 full rounds against vitali klitschko. And so many say v. klitschko has a great chin.
    This comes from some idiotic "****ers:
    But Tyson must be a bad chin because far away from his prime the actual best fighter
    knocked him out by 193 punches/not full 8 rounds.
     
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    You ****ing idiota.Ruddock was skinny as hell against Jaco.
    Ruddock was a very muscular fighter with incredible broad sholulders against Tyson.
    Whats your opinion you ******? Is the light-heavyweight skinny Holyfield
    and the ripped muscular 215 or more Holyfield same fighter?
    What a ****** you are!

    I think Jaco beat Ruddock because he had asthma problem, ****** !

    Frazier was a unathletic chicken in an overrated era with lots of
    pathetic Wepner type man.
     
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    Was Tyson knocked out yes or no?

    Was Tyson in a fit state to carry on yes or no?

    Please answer my simple questions.
     
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    The guy didn't even have his gum shield back in his mouth properly, never mind being on his feet and in a fit state to carry on fighting. But as I said earlier, you can put pigs in suits, but you can't stop them grunting.
     
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    Here's the deal about chins. Frazier had the superior ability to take a beating than Tyson did. Pound on Frazier all day and night with B+ or A- blows and he might get rocked, bruised, puffed up, but he'll keep on ticking. Tyson was not one to take a beating over a long period of time, particularly because his high energy explosive style caused him to fatigue faster, which contributes to one getting stopped. That's why Foreman got stopped by Ali - that knockout had more to do with fatigue than chin. Most people grant that Foreman had a great chin. Frazier had tremendous condition, so he could take a beating longer. But Tyson had the superior ability to take the really heavy brutal power shot - the A or A+ blow. If you had any doubts about his chin all you have to do is watch him get nailed by the huge Razor Ruddock, who had some serious speed and snap on those left hooks and uppercuts, and he was no small man - 6'3" and 228-238. Plus Mike also got nailed hard by lots of other really big dudes who could crack a bit - like Berbick, Tucker, Bruno, Smith, Golota, etc. So all in all I'd say Tyson's chin was better than Frazier's, but Joe's condition and ability to take a beating was better than Tyson's.
     
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    lewis hit harder than foreman? still trying to figure out if this is some kind of cruel joke.
     
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    No the joke is Foreman hit harder than Lewis.

    Lost to Briggs, lost to Morrison, just 2 guys Lewis stopped, yet Foreman is the " bigger " puncher. Dream on.
     
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    lewis did not hit harder than foreman i like lewis better but their is no way he hit harder.
     
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    C'mon Foxy you know boxing history; this is not a rational statement made in good faith.

    1) Foreman was old when he fought these guys. Though he likely hit close to as hard as earlier, he was dramatically slower, & apples to oranges is not a fair comparison.

    2) He lost to to Morrison because the guy potshotted & ran.
    Foreman could not catch him, had absolutely nothing to do with powerm except Tommy even young & likely juiced did not want to taste his power or trade with him, despite hitting very hard himself.

    3) Everyone knows Foreman was ROBBED vs. Briggs. And was 48 years old!

    4) Anyway don't you know that power is only one amongst many important factors for stoppages? Does Foreman hit harder BECAUSE he has a somewhat better KO%, especially when he 1st retired when older than Lewis did, in more fights?

    No, accuracy, combinations, finishing ability, volume, opponents & more go into KOs. And speed, ALSO effecting how impactful blows are due to surprise or being able toroll with or otherwise minimize impact.

    Both hit very hard by any stadards. I think FOreman hit harder & had somewhat heavier hands, his ability to move anyone was legendary.