The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto is not fast
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Speed doesnt make a fighter.

    If you base your opinion on Khan beating Mayweather, purely on speed. Then you're in for a seriously rude awakening.

    To beat speed, you need timing and Mayweathers timing is second to none.
     
  3. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All ko PAC except Ortiz. PAC is done.
     
  4. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jesus get khan out of your brain I just said cotto isn't fast and he isn't nothing about khan, anyways you have your pick I have mine, and my explanations are never as simple as one trait means you will win a fight
     
  5. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd ducked margo. Floyd would never fight awkward fighters like bradley and clottey. He likes come forward fighters.
     
  6. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You'd get good odds on that lad
     
  7. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Margarito? Name a single quality opponent he beat AFTER being exposed a CHEAT? ZERO. FACT!
     
  8. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah the cheating one might have beaten him though
     
  9. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the funny thing is I think you might be somewhat serious here. pac hasn't come close to KO'ing anyone in forever yet he ko's everyone in fantasy matchups and Floyd (the far superior fighter) loses in every fantasy match.

    canelo destroys paq.
    154 cotto stops pac too.
    I really don't know if pac is capable of beating ANY of thoe opponents.
    I don't even know if he has the power or chin to deal with Ortiz, even a 2014 Ortiz.

    pac to the tards in the most over rated fighter currently in boxing. ya ya ya he ko's everyone except everyone he fights even suspect chinned opponents
     
  10. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    Mayweather-Algieri - Mayweather in an embarrassingly easy UD

    Mayweather-Bradley - Mayweather in a surprisingly embaressing UD

    Mayweather-Rios - No suprise here, mayweather make him look like a fool

    Mayweather-Margarito - Mayweather moves and pot shots to a very dull victory, tying
    marg up on the inside on the rare occasion he gets close

    Mayweather-Clottey - Mayweather in 2009? against clottey? no chance for clottey but id say out of all the 5 fights clottey would have the most success


    Pacquiao-Maidana - pac late TKO

    Pacquiao-Alvarez - alvarez UD or late TKO

    Pacquiao-Guerrero - guerrero gets a taste of pac early, does not like it. fights scared in his shell for the other 10/11 rounds

    Pacquiao-*154lb Cotto - hard to say really, id prob lean towards another pac victory (this time via decision), but i think cotto would do better

    Pacquiao-Ortiz - pac ko's him within 4
     
  11. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    fouling = roughed up ? ok great.. but thats not going to win you a boxing match ? :rofl

    maybe in future you should say "Margo KO floyd in a streeet fight! AND THATS A FACT"... i mean its still an opinion but atleast its more credible given the reasoning of your "argument"
     
  12. Staminakills

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    pretty fair and reads non bias but where is pac getting all this power for the ko's ?

    tbo I cant see pac coming close to stopping chino, I could easily see chino stopping pac early or late
     
  13. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    i dont think so. if he had loaded wraps so be it. we can clearly see marg hits hard natural. floyd would struggle to get hit by marg lets be real, hed dance around this guy pot shotting and what not, maidana has better footwork and an old floyd who looked like **** had him confused dancing around him WITHOUT throwing a punch ? a younger floyd from the year pac fought marg? im sorry but floyd just "stinks up the joint" an easily outpoints marg.
     
  14. Barrera

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    because chino althought he has an underated defense fights one way.. he wants to go to war. even against an old pac who lets face it has lost some power, can still drag him into deep waters and drown him.

    ortiz has an average chin , pacs speed and weird angles confuses ortiz, mentally ortiz starts caving and BAM pac just breaks him early
     
  15. jonze86

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    Partly agree with this post.Floyd has definetly avoided fast fighters with great footwork.but also there aren't many very skilled fighters with speed.Pacquaio is obvious ofcourse.

    One thing amazes me,is that many "haters" claim Floyd will only fight against slow plodders so he could shine against them.but also in next sentence they claim Floyd ducked Margarito.and what was Margarito?

    I think whit Floyd it's always double standards and finding a way to hate the man.even i admit that sometimes i speak Floyd with double standards.sometimes i rate his resume very highly and next day i will admit and say Floyd resume could be way better.i think the truth lies somewhere between.

    One big problem with modern fighters is social media,and rumours and everything else spreads ultra fast.Joe Louis didn't have that kind of problem and there aren't that many sources and tapes to see what kind of fighters Louis fought.and who he "ducked" etc.

    In here we speak so much about Floyd and his resume and opponents resume etc. That in time it's very easy to say Floyd never fought anybody half good.

    And also people expect too much from Floyd.it doesn't matter who he fought and what weight.

    Instead of Baldomir fight Margarito,and Margarito would now be in thread starter list as one of slow plodders.and people would claim Floud ducked lineal champion Baldomir who just beat fast fighter in Judah,and Floyd opted to fight against paper champion who happens to be slow plodder.

    And again i admit,i have fallen to samekind of accusations.against Guerrero and lastly Maidana.there were couple of better fights available.but i'm sure we could rip those opponents pretty easily.Pacquaio was past his prime,Bradley has already "lost" and wasn't even WW.just top of my head,in time we could definetly find better "proof" that both were way too overrated fighters.

    And soon we have to give Floyd pass for his age,and not looking so great against these top 10fighters.it's very rare that fighter is pushing his 40's and is still champion.Hopkins is not standard for boxers.

    So i admit that Floyd is somewhat protected,but in same breath say also that Floyd fougth against the best.it doesn't makes sense.but it's somewhat true and atleast to me pretty accurate.

    Hope everybody understands,english is not my first language.Floyd always win's but he never wins outside of the ring.yes Floyd is ducking maybe Pacquaio.but we and everybody mama's know,if somehow Floyd would take this fight and won.almost everybody would still critisize Floyd oneway or another.now we say he is ducking,next we will say Pacquaio was past his prime.and yes it's true,but also Floyd is way past his prime.

    I wrote long post,and it doesn't make any sense.but nevermind,usually posts here doesn't make any sense
     
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