billy nelson finished rickys career imo

Moog from what ive heard Rickys always been stubborn regards nutrition and diet , maybe this is the time he now realises its a massive part of the game , i train with Big Brophy most weeks and the guy takes his nutrition as serious as his training getting constantly monitored in terms of weight and bodyfat all through his camps , have a look at his weigh in video from friday and youl see the condition he gets himself in is class

 

I had the pleasure of being down Billys gym recently for a wee session, and David was in great nick I must say. Seemed a nice guy too. I think he can go real far, at least European level. I see boxrec have him rated 12th in UK at SMW, well I would say there is a few above him I would fancy him beating now. Good to see him dismantle a guy with a winning record at weekend, the class sparring at Gallaghers will have helped too. I tell you I would fancy his chances against Frank Buglioni. Paul Smith is now at world level, so will chuck British soon, Callum Smith is going down other routes, Fielding is injured, I think his team should target a British eliminator v likes of Blackledge or Buglioni as I would strongly fancy David to beat either. Big things have been said about Steve Collins training Buglioni, well Ryan Rhodes was a good fighter and we seen when Woodhouse fought Limond that Peter Harrison had a gameplan far better than Rhodes gameplan, Billy would do same with Collins. :good

 

the difference with being Ricky was always in that fight with Beltran and yes we never knew how bad the injury was.
But what I will say is in the gym after the injury Ricky was looking great in sparring with Mitchell,Ward,Campbell and Selby so there's absolutely no excuses, I never done anything differently from his previous 23 fights for myself, although Ricky and I paid for a strength and conditioning trainer which I personally thought he simply never needed.

 

I understand your point, but Ricky is a fighting man so realistically its Should not leave scarring, I have known normal guys who have had jaws broken and getting attacked my tooled up gangs and still fought back, and its never mentally scared them since. Look at Rugby League player Sam Burgess got his jaw broke at start of a cup final at weekend, carried on played full match and got Man of Match award. Also I said at time if Ricky is struggling mentally he should have went to see a sports psychologist for help. Billy doe right keeping him in fight, what Ricky should have done is go gun ho afterwards and try and knock Beltran out

 

if the same senario happened again I'd do the same thing, do remember at no point did Ricky indicate he wanted out because he knew he was the better of the two fighters, I firmly believe Ricky would have won handsomely had the injury not occurred, watch Crawfords speed and movement it will be far to much for Ray imo

 

Yeah Crawford will beat Beltran with ease, interestingly Rick said Zlaticanin hurt him ore than Crawford, makes me even more surprised why in last few rounds he never through it all at Crawford to try and get a stoppage win (unlikely he would have, but it was worth the try late on)

 

I seen Ricky saying that but I'm not sure he was meaning in the sense that Zlaticanin hurt him I think he was meaning more the loss hurt more than the Crawford loss because Crawford is a class fighter but guys on Zlaticanins level Ricky should've been beating him.

 

I see that but I heard he also said in an interview he hit harder, with those big wild swipes I am not surprised, though sent with a telegraph

 

The reason Ricky got caught with that shot he didn't come in using his jab the first thing he tried to do was throw a silly 6 punch combnation leaving himself wide open, Ricky needs to go back to using his jab keep his opponents at length for a few rounds using jabs before bringing other punches behind it.

 

To me Burns has always boxed at his best off using his jab and outworking the opponent.
His style has been changed obviously not for the better setting his feet and as moog says and I totally agree with his work has become telegraphed.

He used to be excellent at upsetting an opponents rhythm via his workrate from distance now he looks a fighter that is fighting without a game plan that suits his style and it is showing big time.

 

title of this thread is bo llocks

billy had him punching above his weight way over achieving imo

i stand by what i said and think burns was not world class , fringe level maybe , billy do you think you can get another fighter to world honours ?