Who should rate higher Tyson or Holyfield?

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  1. Phil_Ivey_76

    Phil_Ivey_76 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    p4p it's Holyfield

    At HW it's very close... I'd go Tyson
     
  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    TYson at #6 alltime?:rofl
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    i don't spend 24 hours looking at your profile. just want to know your top ten.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    i smell a ****sucker.
     
  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I usually place Tyson around 6-8, right above Lennox and Foreman. Have a nice day.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    what does your top 10 look like?:lol:
     
  7. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have tyson at about 12-14. #6 in my opinion is a ranking far higher than he merits but whatever floats your boat.
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Go away kid. Go play with your bat.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    kid? i am 82 and i don't think you are over 13. when i simply ask for your top 10 list you feel the need to insult, you did this to foremanjab also.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    exactly. imo 12-14 is being generous.
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    :think And all this time I thought you were a fat ***** with small tits
     
  12. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    You're not even creative with your insults. I'm kinda embarrassed for you. Hang in there...
     
  13. cuchulain

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    I might have been a little hard on Evander above, but Tyson's wins wins are over better opponents overall, they are for the most part, unavenged, and they are far more decisive.

    p4p, you would definitely have a case for Holy, but I have him just outside of top 10 as a Heavy weight, while I have Tyson 7-9.


    So, Tyson.
     
  14. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes, peak value & decisive wins are 1st amongst equals for me.
    Tyson also did not seem to lack fortitude in his prime, though his later career mitigates his greatness.

    I do not see how you do NOT penalize Evander for PED usage.
    If a guy did things to increase his success that are cheating, it should mean something. Ethically AND where he was likely to rank with fair competition.

    His CW years can get much credit-at that weight.

    Tyson 7-8 seems fair, Evander 13ish at best, since he do not know how good he would be clean

    I think the "awlays had his number" meme is overused.

    Sometimes applies, but for example Norton would not be able to counter-punch a speedy peak Ali so easily, Frazier would not land so effectively...And Tyson with greater movement & combinations likely would take Holyfield out, even with the clinching.
     
  15. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield has not failed a post fight drug test, Tyson has. Tyson also admitted to using an elaborate method to pass drug tests using a fake rubber ***** and a bag of someone else's urine. Does Tyson get minus points for this?