The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    this is a very bad fight for pac. he's not weight draining algieri so he has zero advantage in that department. pac doesn't do well against guys who box and have some slickness. this guy is damn near 5'10 and knows how to conduct business in the ring. pac hasn't been aggressive in ages. they should have fed him the other face first brawler from denver after they fed him rios. this may be the end of the pac bandwagon. the wheels are about to fall off.
     
  2. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he did Floyd is a coward, he even fights like a coward. I say it again at that time the Floyd that fought Baldimor looked like garbage, i remember watching that fight and nearly fell asleep. If that Floyd fought Margarito he would of been toast.There's a reason he ducked Margarito. Antonio is no weight jumping welter he is a legitimate Welter with a punch and style to trouble Floyd.
     
  3. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    postol doesn't fight anything like algieri.
     
  4. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All Chris has to do is constantly watch the Marquez tapes ,its enough blueprint there to win 8 to 9 rounds against Pac. Take small steps back and counter ...Pac has the same old moves.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    And after he shut his limited plodding ass out you'd be the first one here saying he didn't prove **** and must fight a real threat. Your ignorant ass can't even give a realistic breakdown as how Margo would deal with PBF's speed defense reflex and ring IQ advantage just pure hate and wishful thinking you waste of space troll. I will bury your ass on this debate so try me if you want to fu ck boy.:hi:
     
  6. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    So this is a cherry pick then, right? :deal
     
  7. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top Rank fighters gets none of Floyd's Money . I have said it time after time and people just don't understand this game.
     
  8. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think so Margarito didn't get the fight because the bum couldn't string two good wins together without a loss simple as that. People argue Toney over Carlos, Baldomir was Undisputed WW Champ and fought top comp up to 160/68 Margo fought bums at WW and loss every big fight he's been in with the except Cotto and how did he follow that up by getting caught cheating and KO'd 6 months later in his next fight.
     
  9. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    What realistic breakdown do you need.Margo come forward eats 3 punches to land 1.Pressure alone would have Floyd using his legs.It would be round 12 of may vs maidana2 all over again.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It's not that simple. You do realize that back when the fight was talked about PBF was still prime don't you? PBF was not 37 past his best like when he fought Maidana. He could stick and move for a full 12 rounds with great speed reflexes defense and countering without breaking a sweat.

    On top of that Margo is a slow starter and would be down 6 rounds before he even warmed up. PBF would not be there to be hit against Margo and if he chose to stick and move there wouldn't be **** Margo could do about it.:deal Margo doesn't have the foot speed or foot work to track PBF down he's too slow. He would come in with no jab get beat to the punch and PBF would be gone when opened up PBF would counter his ass and be gone. There's no way Margo could beat PBF other than PBF hurting his hand very early on in the fight period. You can't beat PBF without a jab you must have one to disrupt his rhythm and keep him honest if you don't have that you must atleast have a looping overhand right and the last time I checked Margo has neither.

    PBF isn't Cotto he isn't going to fade down the stretch nor would he get hits as often either. Margo without his wraps isn't a big puncher he's tailormade for PBF. His workrate against PBF would drop to a career low and he would be frustrated with that stupid grin on his face as PBF snaps his head back again with another flush straight right hand. PBF wouldn't lose a round to Margo and after the fight people would say he ran but in reality it would be just another of PBF's many clinics and bitter PBF haters would lose sleep after the fight.:deal
     
  11. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    .Youre making it seem as if Floyd vs Margo would be a walk in the park for Floyd. How was a Margo who wasn't **** without wraps able to almost put pacquiao down with a body shot.How did that slow ass plodder manage to get in range to land such a punch. Your breakdown is pure speculation at this point.You say he was in his prime around that time yet he looked far from prime against a coked out Oscar.
     
  12. Staminakills

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    odh was 10000x the fighter marg could dream of beaing and Floyd WAS still very close to his prime, (tho not prime as in true prime due to being way way way out of his weight class) and he didn't struggle at all vs odh, odh couldn't land a single meaningful shot until round 12 where Floyd swung with him and got caught a little.

    against baldi he hurt his right hand badly in the 3rd round. if you really watched the fight he was teeing off on baldi until midway through the 3rd round.

    baldi and especially odh are better than any version of marg.. you ask how did marg almost kd pac with a body shot ? pac is very easy to hit, Floyd is the opposite. Floyd elusive while pac is not...

    a coked out odh ? I love how you clowns completely change history, he was doing COKE after he retired meatball
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    When has Pac been a defensive genius,? He only landed that shot because Pac was against the ropes. Pac owned him in the middle of the ring.

    Pbf fought Oscar at 154 with the deck stacked against him and still won 9-3 or 8-4. Pbf has never looked good at 154 and that Oscar that pbf beat was still better than Margo.
     
  14. Cisco Route

    Cisco Route He Who Says Nay banned

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    I would agree with you if we were talking about an in his prime or near his prime Pacquiao. However, post KTFO6 Pacquiao is a different animal. He's not the life on the edge ambush killer he was years ago. This post KTFO6 Pacquiao is much more tame and orthodox in his approach - having gone away from what made him dynamic, IMHO.

    If Pacquiao is going to win this fight then he'll need to go back to what he was circa 2009. Algeri has the height, reach, good movement and, most importantly, an educated left hand. If Pacquiao comes to box, Algeri makes him look bad, IMO...
     
  15. erogers

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    To ultimately answer the question of the thread:

    I don't think Floyd was scared; Floyd weighs the risk vs reward for each fight.

    If you were in Floyd's shoes, would you rather fight Margarito for $7 million or Baldomir for $10 million?

    Floyd was in that transformational phase of his career where he could demand large purses. I think he was setting precedence for the future to be honest. You can't knock him for that.

    In addition, I think that Floyd had a plan to fight De La Hoya before he even fought Baldomir. Where does Margarito necessarily fit into that schedule? Before? Why screw up a De La Hoya fight that was all but guaranteed? After? Well, Margarito lost to Paul Williams two months later...where's Margarito's leverage then?

    Boxing is a business. You have to respect Floyd's ability to garner that much power to whom he fights. HOWEVER, I do think it was interesting that he "retired" at the prime time for the welterweight division (Paul Williams, Cotto, Mosley, and to a lesser extent Margarito). He was a fool for not capitalizing on the money that was out there to be made by facing any of these four opponents (I could argue Ricky Hatton was a good option, but not in terms of risk).

    However, if they did ever fight, I think that it would be a version of Floyd vs Corrales (without the knockdowns), or a Floyd vs Baldomir. Margarito was extremely slow and he wouldn't have had been willing to produce the work rate he had when he was at welterweight.
     
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