Irish Boxing

Boxing is my interest and I like to draw analogies between boxing and other aspects of life, that's all.

Fair enough STB, it's obviously not appreciated on here anyway, so I'll stop making " silly little economic references" ...or "sharing the facts that I've observed to be true over the course of my lifetime", to put it another way.

Shame my fellow Irishmen are a bit like the people in the fairytale about the "Emperors New Suit of Clothes", who would rather follow a fantasy than face the truth. That's one of the main reasons this country has failed. We keep shooting the messenger. It's actually not unpatriotic to say " Andy Lee is a failure at world level" or " our economy is a failure" etc

One last thing ..a date for your diary: 2034!!
I'll be well retired and probably long past caring by then, but FWIW that's the date of Ireland's NEXT big recession.
How do I know?
Cos Ireland's economy goes into meltdown every 26 years.
Not 25 or 27. 26! Like clockwork. "Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them", a phrase that might have been invented with Ireland in mind.

Check it out. 1930, 1956, 1982, 2008......2034!

Ye can all relax now...no more economics...just boxing. All the best. :good

 

Well the proposed Lee v Korobov fight is definitely a F. W arren promotion, so it looks like Di Bella no longer does....

 

DiBella is still his promoter and this show won't go ahead without agreement from FW, TR, DBE and Adam Booth. Still details to be signed about date and venue, regardless of what Bob Arum told US media.

 

Its no fantasy thatm Ireland would not be better off under a country that it already outranks across the board.
This notion that its only Ireland that has problems is massively myopic. Go to Sunderland, Newcastle, Glasgow and Belfast and tell them what an amazing country they have and how strong their economy is.
See how that goes.
As for life experience, Ive lived in Ireland, The UK and America...believe me, if you think Ireland is the only place with these problems, you need to wake up.
If you really believe that every 26 year meltdown theory, like its some scientific truth, by all means profit off it, by short selling everything going into the next meltdown. Its only 20 years away apparently...:roll:

I would really like to finish this talk now. Especially when you start throwing up co-incidences like its some indisputable and unbreakable truth.
By the way. The Irish recession started in late 2007...so not exactly FACT is it?



Also why do you single out Andy Lee? I never hear you shouting for Macklin to retire even though he received a savage beating from Jamie "I was never more than British level" Moore and was stopped in 3 rounds by Golovkin.
Do you think Macklin should never be allowed near a world title again?

Why Andy Lee?
You go on about how "none of his fans are going to care when hes in a home" or some other nonsense. I could name dozens of fighters who have goten world title shots who are less able than Andy.

 

The first two are on board, booth will likely jump at the chance , so that leaves Lou DiBella. Doubt he will be an obstacle. But with the small print yet to be resolved let's take nothing for granted. Just look at the BJS-Eubank fight and the Garth Brooks concerts. Sometimes white man speak with forked tongue!
Andy has no trouble getting his name linked to big fights though...Quillin, Cotto, GGG..but this one does look like it's going ahead for real.

 

I can't reply to most of your rant cos it's about economics, and I promised to stop that kinda stuff. I am a man of my word. Besides, STB you are starting to sound badly rattled as your "economic knowledge" falls apart under scrutiny.

As for the boxing bit at the end.that I will address...Andy Lee etc.
it's not "nonsense" to warn about the risks to his health, any more than it was "nonsense"for Davy Mac to warn about the risks to our nations economic health.
Andy seems to take more flush bombs from mediocre opponents than Macklin does IMO. Mack gets hot with a lot of punches, sure, but they're more scuffing grazing shots..they might mark him up..he does mark up easy doesn't he!
But I don't have the same concerns for his health.
There just some thing " vulnerable" about Andy In there...he looks a bit like one of those new-born baby giraffes on the Savannah...all thin body and spindly legs...pipecleaner arms....kinda defenceless looking at times.
Plus he takes a great shot which is a double-edged sword, and he is maybe too brave and too courageous for his own good.

His last few fights have not been impressive, he seems to have regressed with Booth, and he is too inactive, not fighting often enough, to really sharpen up. I just can't see him going anywhere to be honest.

 

We'll see against Korobov.

 

i have to admit to been a little perplexed by the amount of interest in a proposed Lee or Macklin fight compared to an actual Frampton World title fight. Any opinions?

 

If you mean there seems to be MORE interest in Lee-Macklin then it's probably because at the end of the day Frampton is just not that well known or popular in the Republic.

We....the hard core boxing fans know and appreciate him obviously, but he is just not a huge sports star down south among the general public.

Lee and even Macklin are seen as much more "irish", Lee having boxed in the Olympics for Ireland, Mack spending a lot of time here, playing hurling etc

 

If arum is stating it then there must be some truth to it:deal. I hope:yep

 

u talk some shite ... 2 boxers...one born in london and the other in birmingham are more irish than a boxer born in belfastatsch... behave urself:good

 

The difference between the 3 boxers you mentioned,two have walked out behind the union jack for fights and Andy Lee isn't one of them.

 

Calm down It's not black and white mate.
The fact is that Lee more or less lives in Limerick, Macklin is in Dublin and Tipperary and all over Ireland constantly. They are seen and heard and known among the southern irish public as " Irish" boxers mate. Frampton is NOT that well known. Sorry, but it's a fact. At the same point in HIS career, Barry was MUCH more famous down here.

By the way it's partly his own fault. When Carl had a GOLDEN pr opportunity to appear on our biggest TV show he just sat there like a tailors dummy and barely opened his mouth. Barry was with him and Barry did 80% of the talking.

 

I said SEEN AS more Irish Fra ...SEEN AS ...not actually more Irish, obviously!

Don't be so touchy FFS!

 

I think it was as much Barry's media experience over powering Carl as much as Carl's lack of talking. If he had of appeared on his own on the show I'm sure he would have more of a chance to win over public as very likable and intelligent lad. I'm sure he will get chance again to impress.