Who would have beaten prime tyson?

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  1. Sugah Jay

    Sugah Jay Guest

    don't give me any unrealistic answers and provide reasons why they would have beaten him. :bbb:!::dunnowha::****:bush
     
  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield
    Muhammad Ali
    Lennox Lewis
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Vitali Klitschko
    Larry Holmes
    Riddick Bowe
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Not many, if any at all.

    Ali is the only realistic option. I don't think Tyson had the 15 round endurance needed to beat Ali but he definitely had the tools.
     
  4. Sugah Jay

    Sugah Jay Guest

    where's foreman?
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

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    and liston?
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

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    ali
    louis
    liston
    foreman
    frazier
    holmes
     
  7. janitor

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    There are three categories of fighter likely to do it:

    Joe Louis and Sony Liston probably beat him by fighting on the back foot, and using his forward momentum against him, perhaps Foreman as well.

    Ali probably survives some hard moments early to take control of the fight. Perhaps other boxers could do it, but I wouldn’t make any of them favourites.

    The third category is the mugger, who might be able to grapple him and maul him on the inside, as Evander Holyfield did. Jack Johnson might be a candidate to do this.
     
  8. ForemanJab

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    Yeah I forgot him
     
  9. Jester

    Jester Active Member Full Member

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    Guys I label as clear favourites
    Ali
    Foreman
    Lewis

    Tossups
    Liston
    Wlad
    Vitali
    Bowe
    Holyfield

    Small underdogs, but could easily pull off an upset
    Frazier
    Louis

    Heavy underdogs, but they still have a chance
    Holmes
    Dempsey
     
  10. Sugah Jay

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    why louis? his defense wasn't very good, his chin was glass, and he was very stationary. his style was tailor made for tyson
     
  11. janitor

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    Joe Louis did not have a glass chin, by any stretch of the English language.

    Of course if you are determined not to see this, I won’t bother to argue with you.
     
  12. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    God.. how many variations or disguises does this same thread keep appearing in !
     
  13. swagdelfadeel

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    ound 1: Tyson storms out, rushes Louis and drops him within the first 30 seconds with a solid right. Louis is up, shaken, but pulls himself together. Tyson rushes in again but Louis wisely ties him up. Tyson lands inside to the body and a few to the chin. He shakes Louis again before the bell.

    Round 2: Louis is working the jab but Tyson rushes through it and lands another solid left. Another right puts Louis down again. He's up, composed and ties Tyson up coming in. He now realizes he has to pick his shots and whether the storm. Blackburn didn't envision the knockdowns but he knew Louis would have to take Tyson past the early rounds. Round 3 is the same, minus a knockdown, and Round 4 sees Louis working the jab with a bit more success.

    Round 5. Tyson is still well in control of the fight but his punches still come wide. Louis is having more success timing Tyson's punches. Tyson has that wide left hook which actually works well against those with poor defense or who are afraid. It doesn't work well against those with good defense. Louis blocks the left hook, lands his own, followed by a perfect right cross. It shakes Tyson but he doesn't back up. Instead, he rushes forward, misses a wild left hook and catches one on the chin. Again, he doesn't fall. Louis' round.

    Round 6: Louis is working the jab better and having more success with combinations. Tyson goes to the body and hurts Louis but he's beginning to throw one punch at a time. The furious pace has taken a marked effect on his energy. Louis lands a solid right to the temple before the bell. Tyson stumbles but remains upright.

    Round 7: Louis is circling to his left. He's not much of a mover but he's very smart in the ring. Not many can adjust to styles as well as he can. Tyson has only one gear, esp. after the early rounds. He comes forward. This makes it easier for Louis to chose his shots well and it's his best round. He doesn't seriously hurt Tyson but nearly all his head shots land. He's planting his feet a bit better to get more power from his punches. He's also intelligent enough to know he can't take Tyson out with one shot. No one can. But he can chip away at the armor.

    Round 8: Tyson rushes in and is tied up. Louis pushes him off and lands a solid right to the chin. Tyson is knocked off balance, not seriously hurt but visibly tiring. Louis pins Tyson to the ropes and lands his best combination of the fight. ---Inside: right-right-left-right.---

    Tyson fires back with a hook, grazes Louis, moves inside and lands his trademark: hook to body-head. Louis backs off but rights himself for Tyson's rush. He lands a right inside, ties Tyson up and lands another left-right-right before the bell.

    Round 9: Tyson has shot his load but he doesn't give up. HIs punches are coming one at a time but Louis has become more aggressive, knowing that Tyson is more vulnerable. Left-left-right---Tyson backs to the ropes. He's taking a lot of punches, throwing few in return and missing more than half of them. Louis is picking his shots well and his accuracy is near perfect. --Tyson is once again on the ropes. ---right, right, left-- Tyson staggers to the other side of the ring. Louis moves in at the bell.

    Round 10: Blackburn orders Louis to "Finish him". Joe moves in, jab--jab--RIGHT!. Tyson backs up. Against the ropes, he's still swinging but not often and missing most. Louis lands a hook. Tyson is back to the ropes again. Inside: right-right-left-right. Tyson moves to a corner and Louis follows and lands another seri.
    one for the ages.
     
  14. heavy_handss

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    very few guys... h2h this guy was a real force in his peak, motivated with cus alive he would be a serious problem for a prime ali even for foreman. the only guys that i pick convinced 80% to beat him are ali and foreman, after holyfield is a 60%, lewis is a 50/50 both men motivated and focused, louis? don´t mak e me laugh, every thing that louis did tyson did better, tyson was as accurate, faster, stronger, much heavier, even better combo puncher because he had better uppers, he was a faster starter, much more aggressive, even better finisher than louis, and the great factor here is the chin.. tyson had a much better chin... stylistically louis was too static and he could not run from mike, tyson would finish him soon or later.
     
  15. nikrj

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    Prime Foreman and Prime Holyfield