Harrison v Woodhouse Feud

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by moog, Oct 5, 2014.


  1. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    David what an excellent post, agree totally with what you say. The thing is also a lot of guys ranked 5-15 in the FW, SFW classes back then would be champions if around now, as they had Scott, Barrera, Pacman, Moralas, Marquez, Mendina, Chachon, Chi to deal with !!! The likes of Brodie, Hussein, Abelyn, Johnson/Patterson (when Scott fought them) were a level of the above mentioned guys, but everyone Ricky has fought outwith Crawford possible is at least a level of these guys. Some of them a couple of levels of, Brodie was cheated out of one world title fight, he clearly won, and he draw another, were as Mitchell has not even lasted 7 rounds in his two title fights combined (Brodie was much better)!!! Michael Brodie that fought Scott Harrison would be a world champion in todays era, remember Scott broke his ribs, now it was not wear and tear that done that, it was a world class body shot from a man who won most of his world title fights by way of KO that done it.
     
  2. davidmcallister

    davidmcallister Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks mate, but now we have to be honest on what Scott has to offer today and imo that would be him working himself into domestic title contention. If Scott does manage to sort out his legal problems and I hope he does as a big Scott fan and I have spoken to him personally and 2 of my brothers have had stints training with his father Peter and I have so much respect for both Peter and Scott but the days of Scott boxing at world level are to be no more!!

    I would like to see Scott back fighting against opposition and trying to get himself a shot at the British title but since he has came back he hasn't shown anything that makes me think he will ever cut it at world level. If he could get a few fights in quick succession and get some momentum i'd then like to see him in bout at lightweight against the likes of:

    Ricky Burns: Even though neither are in their prime i would still like to see it happen just because I am a great fan of both and there is a bit of curiosity factor in this bout!!

    John Murray: This would be a war and it would be a battle of attrition from the first bell!! John doesn't look the fighter he was and his style would gel well with Scott's.

    Derry Mathews: Derry is always in exciting fights and I know he has sparred Scott!! This would be entertaining.

    If Scott could get wins against these fighters then i think he could then look at trying to win the British Title. If he could put those fights together and win then nobody could say he no longer deserves to be fighting either.

    But what he really needs to do is win the biggest fight of his life at the minute which is making sure he doesn't get locked up in Spain again whilst ensuring he continues to keep himself out of silly things outside the ring.
     
  3. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, it would be near on impossible for him to be a world champion again. I actually think when he first made his comeback that it was strongly possible as at his best he was a couple of levels above most of the current champions at SFW and LW, but unfortunately he never got a run at it. I know in 2012 Kevin Mitchell agreed to fight him then ran away, story of Scotts boxing careers people agreeing to fight then running. John Murray v Scott would be a classic while it lasted, but wouldn't go past 6-7 rounds as unlike Murray Scott has a great boxing brain to go with workrate and heart. Scott regardless of what people think would beat Ricky now, as Ricky has no inside game (Scotts strength), and Rickys long range boxing has disappeared, and he is crumbling under onslaughts. I would also love to see Scott v Gary Buckland at SFW or LW, same result/fight as against Murray. I actually don't think Scott would be interested to much in British title, said previously he won it when he was about 21, and he has no interest in it (that was a couple of years ago, now with inactivity he may feel different). I also agree he has a bigger fight to fight regarding Spain, things from long ago that authorities should have dealt with at the time hold him back). PS, its nice sharing boxing opinions David with someone using valid reasoning behind there opinions !
     
  4. jordan1989

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    Those are 3 cracking fights David! I'd love to see all 3, The Burns fight would be a bit messy at times I think with Ricky's new love of trying to fight on the inside which isn't his game And I wouldn't rule out Scott winning all 3 fights I don't think John is what he used to be and Derry is definitely beatable but he has the tendency to pull out punches from nowhere as seen against Coyle.
     
  5. Ryan the Liar

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    Burns in his peak >> Harrison in his peak
     
  6. billy nelson

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    Ricky's speed and movement to much in a very hard fight, coz Scott was one tough tough guy
     
  7. ChipChair

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    With every post comes more embarrassment, your as bad as your alcoholic waster of an idol, blame everyone else it's never Scott's fault just everyone else's.
     
  8. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, Billy Ricky was not quicker than a young prime Scott, and as for movement Scotts footwork was on a different level. Ricky never had the power that would have stopped Scott in his tracks as his 27% KO record would suggest, and that was bumped up my getting Nicky Cook out of retirement with his chronic back problem, and Gonzales injuring himself. Prime for Prime if they fought at SFW Scott would have stopped Ricky inside first half of fight, and late in fight if at LW. Gulf of class, funny how Scott would still be all wrong for him at this stage.
     
  9. billy nelson

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    Brodie wouldn't be a world champ today, yes Scott hurt Brodie but he must have been at least 18lbs heavier than Brodie on the night.
    Yes Brodie got cheated but so did chi after being announced the winner they turned it into a draw come on moog don't you remember that, then Brodie got well beat in the return
     
  10. davidmcallister

    davidmcallister Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on Billy that really doesn't mean anything!!! haha If you had a fighter that could do the weight that Scott did comfortably (maybe not near the end) then you would be doing exactly the same!! Scott was just making the most of his determination to make a weight to get his advantage!!

    Loads of fighters manipulate the day before weigh in to their advantage like Julio Cesar Chavez jnr, Brandon Rios, Adrien Broner etc But imo it always catches up with them at some point of their careers!! I actuall like the IBF where you can't be more than a certain weight in a next day check. Isn't it 10lb?

    I also think that Michael Brodie would have had a chance in being a world champion right now, he had talent and could punch a bit and it was just a shame he came up against In-Jin Chi who was hard as nails and looked like he put on as much weight as Scott did at the time.
     
  11. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ricky Burns is normally heavier than his opponents on fight night (he was massive next to Mitchell), and fair play to him. it has its advantages early in fights, but late in fights a lot of boxers tire who put on 2 much weight. I look at champs now and have no doubt Brodie would be one now, good power, good skill, and a gutsy guy
     
  12. big_daddy

    big_daddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ibf one is 10lbs, think that also applies to any fight in the uk regardless of which organisation the belts are for
     
  13. davidmcallister

    davidmcallister Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think thats true mate, it's the organisation that makes the rules about their belts.
     
  14. c woodhouse

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  15. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Listen Scott Harrison is an alcoholic washed up scumbag waster now. Really good fighter back in the day but as a person a total piece of ****, why he has fans defending him is beyond me, the fact that idiots like Ryan still think he'd be relevant were he to make a comeback is comical, Look how Hatton got on when he came back with Scott multiply those effects by about 5. Harrison is going to jail soon anyway and hopefully we never hear of him in boxing again, he's a terrible example for the sport i don't know why anyone gives a **** about seeing him fight again.