Bigger H2H threat, Louis or Bowe?

the only thing that Bowe had over Louis was size and he was a big target who got hit too much. Louis brought all the tools, the weapons and the know how and was also always conditioned.

 

Louis by a country mile, for the reasons given.

 

Who did Louis beat? his best h2h opponents near his in or prime were Max Baer whom came in injured and Arnold Cream whom convincingly beat him in their 1st fight but got robbed by the judges. ___________ Bowe was too much for Holyfield. The Pinklon Thomas that Bowe stopped without putting down was a far superior fighter to Max Schmelling both h2h & p4p. Andrezj Golota was better than Carnera. Lionel Butler was at least on Galento's level. Bert Cooper too. All things considered, Louis' opposition was not even more telling than Bowe's. And despite Bowe's nonexistent defense, and as much as shaky as his chin was, he was more convincing against his opposition than Louis was against his own.

 

Would anybody apart from frankenfrank like to try to make the case for Bowe?

 

I figure Bowe goes undefeated against all the 80s Heavies except for Tyson. I feel Louis takes a loss there. Apples vs Oranges. Whos gonna beat Bowe? maybe Tyson, Foreman, Ali. Same with Joe. I think Bowe should be rated a little higher H2H for size thats just a bias though, the physical strength of Louis was incredible. both top 5 H2H imo.

 

Ok I'll back up Frank. In his prime we saw Louis almost lose to a variety of styles- boxer punchers like Schmeling, swarmers like Godoy, pure movers of the aggressive type in Conn. Bowe we only saw struggle with atg holyfield at the peak of his powers (and you can argue he won all 3 or would have if fan man had worse aim). Do by the literal definition of h2h we can say that we saw more types come close to beating Louis than Bowe therefore Bowe is the greater h2h force.

 

With Bowe's jab, power, chin, heart, and corner he could have beat anyone. He had his boxing lessons as a pro, even a shot Bowe could grind out a win in the trenches. Underrated Power, jab and the inside game is gonna starch or UD all but a few. He could be outjabbed and had focus lapses, Joe had stylistic flaws as well. But just too big and talented for most though. Difficult to definitively beat.

 

Ha Ha good old Frankenfrank and his funny ideas!

 

Perhaps Bowe only struggled with one type of fighter, because he only fought one really good fighter.

You have to ask who his second best opponent was.

 

Most people don't include resume in h2h. It's how you looked in your fights rather than who you fought.

 

Then they really should.

Otherwise James Douglas could be the GOAT.

Context is everything.

 

Excellent summation. Case closed!

 

Bowe would of knocked the **** out of Conn, Walcott, Schmelling one sided in the first go, along with everybody else Louis fought.

Bowe matches up better to Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis , Vitali, Wlad, Holmes better than Louis does so imo Bowe is the bigger H2H threat.

This is provided its the near technically perfect Bowe of the first Holyfield fight is put forward mind.