Prime vs Prime Mike Tyson vs Wlad Klitschko Who Wins?

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Sanders did and do try to find a post where I've said any different.

    The Brewster fight was a case of Wlad fighting stupidly he threw a terrific number of shots for a heavyweight and ran out of steam. But he put the record straight in the rematch.

    His dominance since then has been outstanding.

    I don't see what you find hilarious apart from your shitty attempt at trolling.
     
  2. Odins beard

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    Who beat the guys prime Wlad lost to?

    Me no understand.
     
  3. Odins beard

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    Wlad is a dominant multiple time world champion.

    Tokyo Douglas was a man who for one night fought the fight of his life and made history whilst at the same time showing a form of blueprint in how to handle Tyson. He was probably the first person to stand up to him. Other than that his career was decent but not HOF worthy.
     
  4. dinovelvet

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    When Brewster was retired and coming off a loss?

    In that case Helenius dealt with Peter a lot easier than Wlad could.

    Hilenius had no problems at all with Peter. He boxed him side ways without a single foul or clinch.

    How come Peter got battered worse by Hilenius than he did by Wlad. Isn't Wlad meant to be better?

    Obviously not since Peter gave Wlad far more trouble than he gave helenius
     
  5. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the blueprint to beat tyson is beat a no training, womanizing, hard partying non cus d'amato trained tyson. the blueprint to beat wlad is to fight a pre-steward era wlad. now put the two in the ring at their best and lets keep the arguement there, stop bringing up douglas and all the others that beat a bum version of tyson. on the other hand stop bringing up sanders and all those that beat up glass jaw pre-steward wlad.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    You really believe Shufford and Nate Tubbs are better than Wlad? If not, you really don't have much of a point.

    Are you going to argue how Ferguson, Tucker, and White are better than Tyson, seeing how they beat Douglas and all?
     
  7. Odins beard

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    So we cannot bring up any fighters who beat up Tyson because it doesn't fit in with your shitty little agenda :nut
     
  8. Odins beard

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    :lol:

    It's like trying to reason or have an adult discussion with a ******ed 10yr old.

    I'm sure you and HerolGee must be twins.

    Anyhow I'm off out with the dogs, Wlad Klitschko ATG top 10 heavy. :hi:
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who said that? Please dont make things up. The point is guys who bear Wlad lost to guys you wouldnt dream of Tyson losing to. The point is if a Brewster or Sanders beats Wlad its easy to envision Tyson taking him out. Point is Douglas was a far better fighter than either of those guys. And lastly, aits matter of styles. Wlad doesnt like being backed up and cant take it...hes going to be hit. Prime from prime talk leaves to much to speculate. Peak for peak i think Tyson is the far better fighter. Thats not a put down, but my own assessment having been involved in this sport and watching it for 35 years.
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    And the man who beat Tyson lost to guys you wouldn't dream of a prime Wlad losing to. It's not much of a point.

    But on the flipside, people can see Wlad emulating Tucker(first few rounds), Holyfield, and Douglas' game plan of timing Mike when he comes in and not allowing him to get off on the inside.

    I disagree. I think Douglas, Brewster, and Sanders are on the level. All kind of erratic fringe/journeyman types with great attributes they only brought together a handful of times or less.

    And in my years, I don't see a huge gulf between Wlad and Tyson and see this as a 50/50 fight. I think both have the potentional to neaturalize the other.
     
  11. dan4579

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    How can you say Mike has the perfect style for Wlad?? A 6'6 245 lb heavyweight with an ATG jab, good power in both fists, and who likes to clinch a lot? How did Mike do against lesser fighters with similar styles/physical measureables? Bonecrusher Smith, Mitch Green, Tony Tucker, Buster Douglas, Razor Ruddock....They are all larger heavyweights that Mike could KO or in one case beat.
    Try to remember the Mike Tyson in historical past, not the one in your imagination.
     
  12. Odins beard

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    Excellent points :good
     
  13. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Despite the fact that Mike could rarely stop a bigger fighter who could box A LITTLE, he wins by KO1.

    It doesn't matter that Wlad is better than him in SO many ways.

    Tyson KO1.
     
  14. puncherschance

    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the agenda is prime for prime not drugged out not trained properly has beens (post d'amato) or glass jawed jokes (wlad pre steward)
     
  15. Odins beard

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    That post makes no sense at all :lol: