It's very difficult to say that Wilde was the greatest Flyweight ever. What is obvious though going of the first hand witness and contempary reports from a fair cross section of the boxing and sporting fraternity is that he was an extraordinary fighter.
He fought some very, very good flyweights. Tancy Lee and Symonds look good in the footage of them, and after doing more research contemporary reports of some of the Brits that Wilde beat were glowing. Wilde beat some tough cookies, and the fact he beat some top quality American bantams proves he was a great, great fighter. Wilde, Labarba, Canto, Genaro and Pascual Perez would be my top five.
Not often you see a man willing to admit his opinion has changed. Wish there were more posters like that.
Wilde is the outstanding example of a fighter whose record has lost its impact, because the records of most of his opponents have been lost.
Lost to Boxrec perhaps. But not to I. Look out for the definitive work on Jimmy Wilde and his era of flyweights pretty soon. I have already made a discovery about one of his opponents that makes it a far more impressive scalp for Wilde than a quick glance at the opponents record would suggest it to be. Not, like, next week or next month soon though
For Flea, Wilde had a style all his own. He come in with his hands low with the movement of a bobbing and weaving master. Once in range Jimmy would rip shots to the head or body. Wilde was almost an unfair puncher for a flyweight. You have to see his clips, even outside of his prime. You won't be disappointed. Why a top 3 Fly? Too much speed, power, and durability. The great boxers at fly could not deal with Jimmy's relentless pressure. He'd force you to fight or run and could keep up his pace for 15+ rounds. Gene Tunney felt Wilde was the greatest fighter he ever saw. I think hes the best flyweight ever.
Its sad that the footage says here's what to do if you meet an ugly customer on a dark night. That's exactly what happened to Jimmy when he was an old man,a gang of thugs beat him up on Cardiff Station ,he was never the same again. Maybe Lynch ,Perez, or Canto could beat him,maybe.:think
What footage have you seen of Wilde? I certainly don't think he put forth 'relentless pressure'. You realise as well that my initial analysis was ages ago and I bumped the thread to admit I was wrong?
Wilde was defo not a pressure fighter, I don't think he had the frame for it. He was an elusive sharp shooter with serious ko power.
Against Symonds he mostly fought off the back foot ,countering and blocking, same again against Tancy Lee, I've seen the clips of the Symonds 2 fights, the Lee one and excerpts from the Villa fight,I don't see," relentless pressure," in any of them, some one is embellishing.:think
Yes he was:good Allied to great power he had real ring-sense and very good foot work. 'Im not sure he had better one punch power than either Benny Lynch or Peter Kane, but he was very accurate and had the gift of knowing when to throw the right punch. Wilde looks good on film but Lynch looks like a modern fighter imo, he's a revelation.
I have pretty much the whole first Lee fight, and all the second Symonds fight. Very true. Wilde himself said many times it was speed and timing that produced his powerful blows :good Great foot work indeed. In fact, more I see of Wilde the more modern he looks. Like Canto with much more in the way of offence.