ATG Who Ranks Higher: Lennox Lewis Or Oscar De La Hoya

if you think the threads pathetic just ignore it like any normal person would.

 

The worst one was the one that wasn't mentioned, and that's Golovkin. GGG basically wasted years of his career chasing Sturm in Germany and was blatantly ducked when he was Sturm's mandatory.

 

An ATG, yes, but nowhere close to an ATG MW, and yeah, he travels about as much as Ward does. The big difference is that Ward has beaten most of the best his division has to offer while Sturm has been content with not fighting the best. He's not the man in his division, never has been and never will be. Oscar fought many of the best fighters of his era and lost to several of them, but he beat some as well, which puts him clearly ahead of Sturm on anybody with a brain's ATG list. You're either trolling or you're a complete ****ing mong, or both. :bart

 

Lennox Lewis has the advantage of having beaten everybody that he fought, and I don't recall too many of them being robberies

Although Oscar got robbed of victories over Tito and Shane in the sequel, I think the close and arguable decisions e.g. Whitaker, Quartey, and Sterm (which was just a damn robbery) kinda even things out on that retrospect

 

Which MW champ is fighting Golovkin?

 

I was referring to Sturm ducking GGG before Golovkin came to the U.S.

 

I dont know the facts, but was just noting that Golovkin hasnt yet fought any MW champs regardless of the reason.
I would like to see Golovkin vs Quillin.
I think Quillin may be better than some think

 

Lennox

 

Lennox, and it's not even close.

Oscar had too many decisions that went his way when he didn't even win the fight.

Lennox is a legit ATG. Oscar will never be an ATG. ever.

 

Vargas was ruined by Tito.
Chavez was done.
Gatti wasn't close to being a real Welter.
he lost the Sturm fight. and clearly.
he lost the Whittaker fight.
Quartey was the biggest robbery of them all.


no way is Oscar higher up on the ATG list over Lennox. no way.

 

i had Mayweather winning by only one point. it wasn't a clear-cut win or anything for Floyd. he just about did it for me, it was a seriously close fight.

 

Mosley, an ATG?????

people are mad around here.

anyway, he didn't win either fight. yes, the second fight should be a no-contest due to the enhancers that Mosley used, but Oscar still didn't win the fight.

Trinidad fight was a draw for me, so no win for either of them.

Whittaker should have got the decision. he won that one. Oscar got the win because he brought big money and was a big star. Whittaker was on the slide and wasn't going to bring much to the table in the future where money is concerned.

 

every time i see your posts, it's pure and utter crap.

Wladimir either wasn't ready for Lewis, or getting knocked about. the times didn't add up for them to get it on.

Bowe ducked like a coward. he never would have fought him.

Foreman came out to the media saying he wanted nothing to do with Lewis.

Schulz was a good fighter, but you can't fight them all. had Lewis of got it on with him though, he would have blew him away.

 

a belt doesn't make a fighter any better or worse, so it's meaningless to say it had that much credit attached to it because of a belt.

for me, Tyson had a bit more bite to him than Chavez did in the two fights. Chavez was ropey as hell. his Boxing was poor. his power wasn't there to give him any chance of getting close to a win. at least Tyson had the power to make things interesting.