De La Hoya embarrasses Mayweather in terms of legacy

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  1. Constable

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    oscar fought the best mayweather ducked the best :deal
     
  2. Pimp C

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    Oscar fought the best and LOST you don't get extra credit for fighting the best but still losing it doesn't work like that. If that's the case Zab Judah would be an ATG.:deal
     
  3. Constable

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    mayweather ducked the best and ducked the best in their primes:yep

    mayweather may have you few *****s fooled but the majority of fight fans know he nothing but a coward
     
  4. jonze86

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    To me it's clear Floyd list of opponents,don't hold the same quality as De La Hoya.

    We change the history and Floyd goes against Mosley X2 and Trinidad.Oscar fights Judah,Hatton,Marquez..

    Then Floyd fights Hopkins and Pacquaio,Oscar takes Alvarez and Cotto..

    And there goes the undefeated record of Floyd,and here comes Golden boy with only questionable decision against Floyd.

    Floyd is great,i agree.bur resume wise is overrated.atleast to Oscar.

    Oscar shits over Floyd anyday of the week
     
  5. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is that why everyone in boxing says he's the best and #1 P4P?
     
  6. Constable

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    how did he get the number 1 spot from beating the number 1 p4p guy or did he get it because the p4p number 1 guy lost ?
     
  7. Pimp C

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    Too bad historically that won't be the case. PBF will forever own his golden ass between the ropes May 5th 2007 will forever be known as Cinco De Mayweather and Oscar's own Magazine the Ring ranked PBF higher. :lol::rofl
     
  8. jonze86

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    But you get extra credit for winning against lesser competition?okay,whatever..

    Floyd has never been in the ring with legends like Chavez or Whitaker.agree or disagree?

    Floyd has never fought fighters like PRIME Mosley,trinidad and Pacquaio?agree or disagree?

    And you keep saying Chavez and Whitaker were past their primes.answer me,was Oscar in his prime when Floyd beat him?answer is easily no.however Oscar is one of the greatest win's for Floyd,but Oscar should get no credit for beating two ATG'S at Chavez and Whitaker.

    Boxing world is twisted,Floyd is truly a magician.but he has not challenged himself in the ring like De La Hoyas of the world.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    PBF was P4P #1 for years until he took a break he didn't lose his spot because he lost he lost it due to inactivity:deal Pac never really earned it he was just moved up because PBF was inactive kinda like what's about to happen to Ward and his #2 P4P ranking.
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Yet none of those wins elevated his legacy to the top 30 !


    Your one delusional individual !

    And again no one with any sound logic would vote Floyd in the top 25 except his fan boys ,like I said this was the same list that. Hopkins in the top 10 all time !

    And the version of Whitiker that Oscar beat is ten times better than any one win on Floyd's resume ! But let me guess you use PPV numbers as the measuring stick :lol:

    And he didn't lose,to Tito regardless of what you think and he was robbed against Mosley in the rematch who was closer to his prime than the one. Floyd fought !

    He lost because he dared to be great , Floyd doesn't lose because he doesn't fight great fighters !And that's not hate its FACT!
     
  11. Pimp C

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    I wasn't aware that Canelo Hatton JMM Mosley JLC Chico and Cotto were lesser competition???:huh

    If Oscar would have fought prime versions of JCC and Pea Whitaker I would agree but he didn't and he struggled badly against Pea and got dropped as well. The fact is when Oscar stepped up more often than not he lost and that has to be held against him no matter how much you think it shouldn't.

    PBF beat a past prime Oscar I agree but he fought Oscar on his terms and moved up to take the fight. Oscar was like 33 when he fought PBF so he wasn't shot. Still a good win not his best though.

    PBF could have fought Mosley sooner but Mosley ducked him on live TV saying he needed to get his tooth fixed and earlier in his career because at that time PBF was high risk and lower reward. I won't even get into Pac because he turned down the fight over testing back in 2009 when both were prime.
     
  12. Constable

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    he lost his spot pac took it from 2008 to 2012 do you want me to show you proof?

    pac was hailed as the p4p 1 guy by ring every magazine during that time
     
  13. jonze86

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    I mean that competition wise.

    I won't argue who is better P4P.i would be glad,if you would agree that simple think that Oscsr competition was tougher.

    And stop giving that undefeated ****.Duran lost,Ali lost etc.. Against great fighters.one thing Floyd has never done in his career.

    Calzaghe is european Mayweather(i agree Floyd resume is better) but it's great example how you can go undefeated against lesser competition.

    And some of Oscar losses were questionable,as was couple of wins.however Floyd has his own share of questionable decision.Castillo,De La Hoya,Maidana.but i won't go that far.fighter record is it what is.Ottke is also undefeated ;)
     
  14. Azzer85

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    how did the former p4p1 lose that spot in the first place?
     
  15. Pimp C

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    If anyone here is delusional here it's you. You're the one claiming that Oscar>PBF how can that be the case when Oscar isn't even the best fighter of his era yet he's better?

    That version of Pea Whitaker was a coke head he wasn't prime period and even then he gave Oscar hell a prime Pea would have shut Oscar out.

    Again you don't know the definition of robbery and a close fight so let me school you once again. A robbery is a fight in which there can be no case that the other fighter won it's usually a 10-2, 9-3 or greater type of fight like Pea-JCC for example or like Courtney Burton-Emanuel Augustus.

    A close fight is a the type of fight where a case can be made for both men to have won the fight. For example Oscar-Ike was like that Taylor-Winky was like that or Froch-Kessler 1 or Vargas-Winky neither of those fights are robberies but are rather close fights that could have gone either way. Learn the difference. Oscar-Mosley 2 wasn't a robbery.