Fighters who beat multiple top ten ATG types for their weight division

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    So think, top ten types, think locks but a little loose, that got beat by one guy. Example: Ali beat - Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Sonny Liston.

    So who - whatever the circumstances then we'll talk about the cirucmstnaces - has multiple top ten ATG one weight type resumes?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1NGxru85OU
     
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  2. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield beat Holmes, Foreman, Tyson, Bowe but only drew with Lennox lewis. Not sure if Qawi or DeLeon would qualify in the cruiserweight category, as i guess it would depend on whether or not those from earlier generations (before title was invented) qualified. I would say they probably wouldnt, otherwise his record would take some beating. Also, i have seen Michael Moorer listed in the occassinal light heavyweight top 10, although i wouldnt have him there.
     
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  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Greb at middle has flowers and Walker

    Greb at light heavy has rosenbloom, Loughran, Tunney
     
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    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson: Henry Armstrong, Kid Gavilan

    Willie Pep/Sandy Saddler at featherweight.
     
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    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson, Harry Greb and Ezzard Charles might be the only guys with a win over a Top 10 pound-for-pound great (Armstrong/Walker/Moore).
     
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  6. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the maths is against many people getting the chance to do this.

    leonard beat hearns and duran(depends how you feel about duran at ww)

    lewis beat tyson and hollyfield (and i'm sure someones got vitali on a list)

    johnson beat jeffries and fitz/langford
     
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Ali- beat Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Liston
    Foreman- beat Frazier, Norton
    Holmes- beat Ali, Norton
    Lewis- beat Holyfield, Tyson, Vitali Klitschko
    Holyfield- beat Holmes, Foreman, Tyson, Bowe

    Greb- Tunney, Loughran,

    Greb- Walker, Flowers

    Ray Robinson- Armstrong, Gavilan

    Jimmy McLarnin- Benny Leonard, Barney Ross, Tony Canzoneri
    Ross- Canzoneri, McLarnin
     
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  8. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure walker or flowers are really in the debate for being top 10 mw's, maybe walker but not 4 me.
     
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    Harada beat Ebihara and Kingpetch, who aren't in my top ten flyweights but could arguably be.

    Arguello beat Chacon, Limon and Boza (135) who could all scrape the lower top ten of 130.

    Genaro beat Pancho Villa a few times, 'Memphis' Pal Moore and Charles 'Bud' Taylor; the first a certified top ten fly and the latter two arguably latter top ten bantams.
     
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    Charles beat Burley, Moore and Louis
     
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    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Norton deserves a top 10 Ranking all things being considered. In fact I'm not even sure that I have him in my top 20.
     
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  12. mcvey

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    Its an interesting proposition and, since I've been unrelentingly irascible towards some on here,[not without just cause,] I will endeavour to partly redeem myself by mentioning three I'm fairly confident no-one else will.

    It hinges of course on one's own interpretation of "ATG", but you added the caveat "type", so some leeway there.

    Battling Battalino Beat Boxers Below:
    Fidel La Barba
    Freddie Miller
    Al Singer
    Kid Chocolate
    Bud Taylor
    Bushy Graham
    Panama Al Brown
    Andre Routis

    Sammy Mandell Made Mincemeat Meals of:
    Tony Canzoneri
    Billy Petrolle
    Rocky Kansas
    Jimmy McLarnin

    Jackie Kid Berg Belligerently Battered with Bombast Boxers:
    Tony Canzoneri
    Billy Petrolle
    Mushy Callahan
    Kid Chocolate *Chocolate was conceding weight.
     
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    Not just ATGs but those that could be put in a top ten for their weight class (guess McGrain also means that they were beaten in the weight classes they were ATGs in)
     
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    Ali-Beat Foreman, Frazier, and Liston
    Greb-Beat Walker and Flowers at MW, Tunney and Loughran at LHW
    Robinson-Beat Armstrong and Gavilan
    Charles-Beat Moore and Bivins
    McLarnin-Beat Leonard, Ross, and Canzoneri
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes.

    So so far we've got Ali and McClarnin as the best answers. Anyone else?
     
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