Why did RJJ duck Michalczewski and how did he justify it?

What a crock of **** argument, Imperial. I'm sure you're a nice guy and all but this post couldn't be full of anymore atsch if you tried. You're still railing against things I haven't even said.

No, wrong again. Hall shouldn't have beaten him from pillar to post because his testosterone levels were higher. Try actually reading what I've said before responding.

And yes we do know what he tested positive for - anabolic steroids. Don't even think about trying to turn this into a Ripped Fuel, nasal spray, or whatever other bull**** excuse argument you can muster up because I'm not interested in going round in circles with delusional nuthuggers. Roy tested positive for anabolic steroids end of.

And Steroids and PEDs are not bloody placebos. I've already explained my stance on not believing they don't work miracles, but contrary to what you man crush on Roy compels you to believe, they do enhance both athletes and their athletic performance and taking them is cheating.

No wrong again. I don't think that.

And this doesn't even make any sense to what I said. I was alluding to the double standards and different set of rules you Roy nuthuggers apply to him and how you don't apply them other fighters, especially rivals of his.

This doesn't make any sense to what I said either. I know why Roy took less punishment than Michalczewski, I was explaining to the reasons why Michalczewski wasn't in his prime when he fought Gonzalez, which is a line that you Roy nuthuggers often peddle. It's those double standards and different set of rules regarding him and other fighters again.

And Roy's glass jaw would've been getting shattered every other month had he fought as aggressively as Michalczewski, with or out his roids. :yep

No, you're clueless. You're the one who CONSTANTLY tries to make out PEDs are essentially placebos and you do because your head is so far up Roy's ass that it blinds you to reality. I never said they were a wonder drug or that we should attribute all his success to them but you want to keep arguing that I have. Roy was a superb natural talent and a fantastic fighter but he was also a drug cheat who augmented himself by taking PEDs.

And you Jones disciples need to be reminded of the fact that your messiah was a drug cheat because it's something that most of you seemingly A. Conveniently keep forgetting and B. Clearly couldn't give a **** about. And then you have the audacity to pretend you're not a bunch of steroid apologists and that you don't actually condone cheating lol.

Thing is, I've always actually liked Roy even though there are things he's done things I disapprove of or that disgust me. I have loads of his fights on my external HDs, some of which I still haven't got round to watching yet.

Just in case you think I'm bullshitting.

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I know it's like going round and round in never ending circles sometimes. lol

Yeah, I can understand that and you're entitled to your opinion, mate. I know you, Loudon, and Imperial love Roy and I respect the fact that you've all got his back (Loudon has even admitted to me that he fantasizes about his naked body while him and his missus are having intercourse). :good

 

It's glaringly obvious he was on steroids during his best years. Does this look like someone who's clean to you? And that was a MW Roy who wasn't being tested.

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It's obvious he used them for the John Ruiz fight too and we know he got caught taking them at LHW, which to the best of my knowledge was the first time he was tested for them as a pro, which also IIRC he had no idea he was going to be tested for. Anyone who thinks he only cheated the time he was caught is delusional and it's equally delusional to think he was clean when he wasn't being tested at all too.

I didn't say he had to fight that way I was explaining what would've happened if he did. And besides, I was only half being serious anyway.

Gonzalez was a pretty good fighter for one. And yes, Michalczewski was too far gone to beat him by that stage of his career, although it was pretty close from what I remember of it, not seen it in ages though.

And that 18-0 Zsolt Erdei was a damned good fighter too, and a highly decorated and experienced amateur who had over 230 amateur fights finishing with an overall record of 212-20.

Erdei was also world amateur championship gold medalist, an Olympic bronze medalist (losing to the excellent Russian Gaydarbek Gaydarbekov who was an Olympic gold and silver medalist) and a 2 x European gold medalist and a 1 x silver medalist too.

Erdei beat a lot of great amateurs too. His list of victims include:

The great Cuban Ariel Hernandez who was 2 x Olympic gold medalist and a 2x gold medalist at the world amateur championships (it would've been 3 had he not lost to Erdei in the final).

The superb Russian Alexandr Lebziak who was an Olympic gold medalist, a world amateur championship gold and silver medalist, and a 2 x European gold medalist and a he also won a silver and 2 bronze medals at those championships.

He beat another superb Russian too - Yevgeny Makarenko who was a 2 x gold medalist at the world amateur championships, a 2 x European gold medalist and he also won a bronze at those championships too.

Another of Erdei's amateur victims was the excellent Kazakh Yermakhan Ibraimov who was an Olympic gold and bronze medalst, and a world amateur championships silver and bronze medalist too.

Erdei also beat a couple of other fighters who won bronze medals at the world amateur championships too.

So in addition to Erdei being a highly decorated and accomplished amateur himself, he also beat 3 Olympic gold medalists (one a of them a 2 x gold medalist), 3 world amateur champions (2 of them 2 x winners) - and the world amateur championships are even harder to win than the Olympics, 2 European champions (both 2 x winners) and numerous opponents who won silvers and bronze medals in all those championships too.

Erdei was also a 2x world champion as a pro, and at 2 weights - LHW and CW.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread. No hard feelings, Imperial. :good