Why Aren't More People Questioning Whether Hopkins is on PED's?

I wouldn't be surprised if ANYONE juiced in today's era. But the guy has been winning with skills, not extraordinary speed or reflexes. But like I said, I wouldn't be shocked if anyone juiced today.

 

Because most people are either A) aware of PED's so it isn't worth speculating or B) are convinced that PED's aren't used in boxing and that PED testing is invasive to the fighters' privacy.

I wish that Pascal had insisted on testing before the Hopkins rematch was signed and sealed without extra testing (he waited for the press conference to shout out his famous "take zee test!" chants). Then we'd have that, at least.

This is why fighters should subject themselves to beyond the current standards of testing in attempts to prove their cleanliness of illegal PED's. This thread wouldn't exist if Hopkins had at some point.

 

This.

 

I'd be shocked if he wasn't. Fact is, no other 49 year-old on PEDs has ever done what he has done. I doubt he's really gaining an athletic advantage over his opponents, who are probably all on stuff AND are often a couple of decades younger.

 

I'd be amazed if he wasn't. The man is a senior citizen and recently tested to have the physique of a man in his mid 20's.
But I'd say let him, the man is almost 50 for crying out loud, what's he going to do?
Like Holyfield, Toney and RJJ have shown, there's only so much you can do with it before age catches up with you anyway. And I believe fighting Kovalev is way over that limit for Hopkins.

 

It was actually discussed quite a lot on these forums, as was Pascal "calling out" Hopkins for blood testing.

However, both Pascal and Edwin made the mistake of signing the contract before bringing up their demands publicly. I support their overall desire on the issue as I always do stand for more PED testing of any kind, but their managing of the situation was just silly.

EDIT: I see you joined in May of 2014, so why would you pretend like you were on these forums then anyways? You think others who were here wouldn't remember?

 

:| that's all I heard.

 

The media sets a bad example here, with all the "alien" bull****. But since no direct evidence has been presented, no one in the media wants to risk their job and suggest Bernard is roiding. If there's no whistleblower, no one can report it.

Lampley suggested Marquez was roiding, but at least there he had the Angel Heredia connection to point to. That's a very rare exception though.

Obviously Bernard sprinkles roids on his cornflakes in the morning. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being naive.

 

They don't need to show it on All-Access, just like they don't need to show it on 24/7. The buzz on it died down, I'm sure they still do it, because if he didn't, it'd be in the news.

 

Yup. This.

But some people will tell you that PED testing is invasive to their privacy, PED's aren't in boxing yet, PED's actually hinder boxers, etc. etc. etc.

Loads and loads of ignorance on this issue.

 

Due to the lack of rigorous drug detection protocols in boxing anyone could be juicing but it's pure speculation and if everyone is juicing where's the advantage?

As for Hopkins, while what he has achieved is remarkable there hasn't been anything to suggest he could be cheating.

We haven't seen a big change in his body like when Wach or Vargas showing up more ripped against Wlad and De La Hoya or when Marquez showed up looking more muscular against Pac in their last fight.

We haven't seen a big weight increase like with Toney. Toney had a gut at light heavy yet shows up against Holyfield looking bigger than ever without a huge gut.

To my knowledge he hasn't worked with anyone who has been known to advocate PED use like Victor Conte.

Hopkins has clearly declined physically. He's slower, he doesn't hit as hard as he used to, his stamina and work rate is far worse. If he was still as fast, powerful and active as he was in his prime or even close to it then that would be a big indication that he is juicing but he's not the decline is there for everyone to see.